[WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance

Jay Litwyn brewhaha at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Mon Aug 10 14:26:08 UTC 2009


"Ray Saintonge" <saintonge at telus.net> wrote in message 
news:4A32892B.90602 at telus.net...
> Sam Korn wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote:
>>>> (Photo: <a
>>>> href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg">Wikipedia</a>)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone.
>>> Hell no. You didn't even credit the author.
>>>
>>> Photo: WikiWitch at Wikipedia, under GFDL.
>>>
>>> That's about the minimum you could get away with. You could probably
>>> ditch the "Wikipedia" actually, maybe link to their Wikipedia user
>>> page though.
>>>
>>> (In this case, the photo is actually PD, so it's all moot).
>> Right.  I certainly agree that it would be better to name the author.
>>
>> But when articles are reused, they generally link to the Wikipedia
>> article without giving a list of usernames; I don't see why that would
>> be different for images.
>
> You can put a lot of details into a free licence, but ss the number of
> details increases, compliance diminishes.  Something like "Courtesy
> Wikipedia" may be the full extent of what you can realistically expect.
> Articles are relatively easier to link to than images, because articles
> have clear obvious plain-language titles, something which cannot always
> be said of images.  In large measure the rules requiring detailed
> credits are completely unenforcible outside the WMF community.
>
> Almost every website has its terms of service, which people rarely read,
> and more readily ignore.  It is foolish to believe that using a site
> implies that the Terms of Service imply some kind of contract between
> the site owner and user.

I know that is how it seems sometimes, that ignorance is an excuse. Look at 
it this way, though: wikipedia is easier to learn than "build your own 
website", or "html made simple", or "common terms of service for internet 
service", so if we do not get some people thinking about these things, then 
nobody learns.
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