[WikiEN-l] Harassment sites

George Herbert george.herbert at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 21:37:36 UTC 2007


On 10/15/07, Will Beback <will.beback.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Will Beback wrote:
> > William Pietri wrote:
> >> Will Beback wrote:
> >>
> >>> My proposal is considerably different from "WP:BADSITES". I'm not sure
> >>> why folks continue to use that term to describe every single proposal
> >>> advanced to resolve this problem, but it may not be the most helpful
> >>> plain of engagement. I dub this proposal "WP:COISITES" because it covers
> >>> self-published websites that have a conflict of interest with Wikipedia
> >>> due to their attempts to coerce WP editors.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think the major similarity to me is reducing the utility of our site
> >> to punish people we designate as bad.
> >
> Linking to websites is not a reward and removing links to websites is
> not a punishment. We remove links to websites every day, not because
> they deserve punishment, but because they do not meet our criteria for
> acceptable or helpful links. I'm proposing that we extend that criteria
> to include a limit on self-published websites that are actively engaged
> in harassing Wikipedia editors because they don't help the encyclopedia.
> Doing so won't punish those sites, or even make them stop the
> harassment, but it will reduce the disruption to Wikipedia that those
> sites cause. If there's a better way to do that then please suggest it.
>
> Will Beback

The problem is that it puts the policy on the wrong side of the
eventual consensus on the "Making Light" website/blog.

Not all blogs that criticize, or are somehow at least tangentally
involved in an attack on a Wikipedian, are an "Attack Site-ish"
self-published site, and some of them are notable and reliable enough
to link to in general.


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-george william herbert
george.herbert at gmail.com



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