[WikiEN-l] This historic fact is not allowed on the main pages of http://en.wikipedia.org/

[Ray Saintonge]

censure wrote:
> This historic fact is not allowed on the main pages of
> http://en.wikipedia.org/
> Ustaše (Uprisers) - nickname for Croatian soldiers that drove out the Turks
> from Croatia in the years from 1683 to 1689. [1] former Uskoks. Commanders
> of the southern soldiers based in Dalmatia (1683) where Prince Franjo
> Posedarski, Prince Jerko Rukavina, Dujan Kovačević, Ilija Smiljanić, Šimun
> Bartolac and Stojan Janković (former muslim) Commanders of the northern
> soldiers based in Ogulin (1685) where Baron Franjo Oršić, Baron Stjepan
> Vojnović, Baron Ivan Gusić and Count Adam Purgstall.[2] The Ustasa army
> numbered several thousand soldiers that later settled with there families in
> the Lika and Krbava region of Croatia and are all found by name age and rank
> in the Census of Lika and Krbava in 1712.[3]
>
> 1. Radoslav Lopašić - DVA HRVATSKA JUNAKA: Marko Mesić i Luka Ibrišimović
> (Zagreb 1888) p 35.
>
> 2. Dragutin Hirca - LIKA I PLITVIČKA JEZERA (Zagreb 1900) p 66
>
> 3. Karl Kaser - POPIS LIKE I KRBAVE 1712. GODINE (Zagreb 2003) p 51-374
>
> I am constantly deleted and blocked from editing
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustase by,
>
> 1. User: Spylab
> 2. User: Rjecina
> 3. User: Kirker
> 4. User: Kuru
> 5. User: laughing man WikiProject Serbia.
> 6. User: Steel359
>   
This controversy seems to have more heat than light.  Those of us who 
are not familiar with the politics of the region do not have the 
background in the topic to be able to comment meaningfully about the 
topic.  It seems that you are trying to talk about the origin of the 
name "Ustase", and you would do better to put your additions in those 
terms, and not to put it in the very first paragraph of the article 
which is really intended to just identify the topic for the reader.

The article itself is not about the 17th century group, but perhaps that 
earlier group deserves its own separate article.

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