[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

Matthew Brown morven at gmail.com
Fri Nov 30 07:54:11 UTC 2007


On Nov 29, 2007 5:49 PM, Mark Ryan <ultrablue at gmail.com> wrote:
> What I would like to know (and I'm not going to bother digging through
> hundreds of emails on this topic to see if it's already been asked) is
> which arbitrators are members of that private/secret mailing list, and
> if some arbitrators are members of that list or, further, participated
> in discussions, then which of those arbitrators have recused
> themselves from this case.

I've stated this before several times, but for the record:

I am on both the Cyberstalking list and the investigations list,
having been sent invitations by the creators of both lists.  The
first, in fact, began as an email conversation between a number of
Wikipedians and the arbitration committee list; as the discussion
continued, it became clear that a mailing list would be easier than
keeping the Cc: list correct, and would allow people to join or leave
the conversation as they wished.

You don't make it clear which list you are talking about for these questions.

User:!!, the one Durova blocked, was never discussed on the
Investigations list.  He was mentioned on the Cyberstalking list, in a
post I did not read until after Durova performed the block (It's a
high-traffic list and I get a lot of mail).  She did not say she was
going to block that user, and blocking was not discussed.

Having not discussed User:!! with anyone before the block (having, in
fact, not even known of their existence) I have not recused and do not
plan to.  There is no conflict of interest here.

For that matter, I've posted to Wikipedia Review before as well.  Not
with much of a successful result, I'm sad to say, but there we go.

-Matt



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