[WikiEN-l] JzG's banning Private Musings regarding BADSITES debate

joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu
Fri Nov 2 12:51:25 UTC 2007


Quoting Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>:

>> Alec Conroy wrote:
>>> There is now an ever-growing consensus that BADSITES is rejected, and
>>> that linking  to "badsites' for encyclopedic purposes is permissible
>>> in some circumstances.
>>
>> Setting aside the question of the block for a moment, I'm curious about
>> the incident that triggered the block.
>>
>> If I understand rightly, [[Robert Black (professor)]] is a respected
>> Scottish law prof who is from Lockerbie, who has taken a great interest
>> in the Lockerbie case, and was involved in setting up the Lockerbie
>> trials of the Libyan agents.
>>
>> In response to recent activity in the case, in early July he set up a
>> blog to discuss it. We briefly mentioned the blog and added a link to
>> it. That link stayed in place until a few days ago, when he gave a
>> one-sentence mention of the allegations that SV "systematically altered"
>>  the Wikipedia Lockerbie articles, mentioning what some claim is her
>> true  name. He doesn't claim that they are true, just that they are
>> interesting.
>
> Here's some more garbage from the page the respected professor linked to:
>
> "The most curious reaction to the news of SlimVirgin's identity was
> demonstrated by the English-language media: apart from personal blogs and
> web forums, not a single word appeared in any of the major media! Previous
> scandals such the Seigenthaler case, exposing Essjay, and the WikiScanner
> program by Virgil Griffith, received wide coverage. But there was silence
> about SlimVirgin, comparable to the silence on classic themes such as UFOs
> and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
>
> This year such themes have been completely ignored by major media, even
> when new light is shed on these twentieth-century mysteries. First the
> famous E. Howard Hunt, who personally participated in many covert
> operations during the 1950s and 1960s, admitted before he died that the
> assassination of President Kennedy was organized by U.S. intelligence, in
> conjunction with the Mafia and top administration officials, headed by
> Vice-President Lyndon Johnson. Several months later a notarized deathbed
> confession by Walter Haut was published. In 1947 he was the public
> relations officer at the 509th Bomb Group based in Roswell, New Mexico.
> First he composed a press release about the crash of a flying disc, and
> soon followed with a new release about a weather balloon. For the rest of
> his life he gave evasive explanations of what was really found, but just
> before he died he dared to tell the truth. In the document he left behind,
> Walter Haut states that he not only saw the wrecked spacecraft, but also
> the bodies of aliens recovered from it. They had unusually large heads,
> and bodies the size of a ten-year-old child. It is clear that the deathbed
> confessions of people who participated in these extraordinary events
> deserve serious attention. But the major media ignored both of them.
>
> Moreover, the sensational confession of E. Howard Hunt did not even get
> any space in Wikipedia's article on the assassination of John F. Kennedy
> (at least it is mentioned in the article on E. Howard Hunt). The
> confession of Walter Haut is reflected in the article about the Roswell
> incident, but it lacks a direct reference to the document published on the
> web. Thus, the conclusion: for important Wikipedia articles, the content
> is gradually approaching the official information available from
> traditional sources. It is more or less understandable who is behind this.
> Everyone must decide for himself or herself whether this is acceptable."
>
> How about them apples...? I've always wondered about that disc business.
>
> Fred

Fred, I must be missing something. How is the fact that most of the link that
Black uses is crankery at all relevant?




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