[WikiEN-l] Fwd: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by JPGordon

Samuel L Bronkowitz countpointercount at gmail.com
Sun Feb 18 14:43:23 UTC 2007


What I didn't know was that "before anybody has even had a chance to react
to your issues or concerns" existed.

I got the "your message is being moderated" messages long after I sent my
last message in.

What I did see was as follows:

- Anybody who spoke up about the ongoing falsehoods and obvious wrong admin
behavior was being accused of being a "sockpuppet."

- The "result" of the CheckUser by JPGordon was obviously falsified, it is
supposed to give either an affirmative, negative, or at best "inconclusive."


He didn't give a listing for each accused person either, he just gave a
blanket "likely." The same problem exists for previous CheckUser incidents I
have looked at both in this case and others, it is obvious that the tool, or
at least the power resting in the hands of those who have it but have no
check and balance requiring that they honestly report the results, is being
routinely abused.

- Discussions which were ongoing were constantly being "closed" by
administrators trying to kill any investigation into this incident. Several
users have now filed statements that they have a major problem with this,
but the administrators guilty are facing no sanction and are likely to just
keep doing it. No response to their other concerns has been placed anywhere.
The only conclusion I can draw is that the administrators who did this know
they were being abusive, their friends who protected them know it was
abusive, and they are keeping their heads down hoping it blows over.

Knowing wikipedia, it likely will. Policing of the abuses by administrators
is nonexistent.

- A bot "archived" these things, and so did administrators, again trying to
lock off debate despite the fact that the community has strong misgivings
about how this was handled and multiple users are convinced that the
original indefinite-blocked user was provoked deliberately by the same
administrator who did the indefinite blocking.

- My attempts to file a legitimate unblock request were being reverted by
one of the other "users" who filed the abusive checkuser report.

- I did some investigating and found out that administrator Yamla answers
over 40% of unblock requests just himself, and administrator Ryulong (one of
the ones who abusively "closed" a discussion far earlier than it should have
been closed) at least another 25%. They have yet to certify even one that I
could find as deserving of an unblock, even in cases where policy states
that one should be granted, such as people blocked for 3RR on first offense
who promise not to do it again. It seems obvious to me that this is part of
the problem, because "administration" of this function has turned into a
rubber stamp with no meaning behind it.

It is now Sunday morning. Not a single administrator, on the Administrators
Noticeboard, has answered any of the concerns, though more administrators
have "closed" and "archived" discussions on it by normal users, which
prompted Mis Mondegreen to file another thread here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI#Stop_archiving.21_in_re_RunedChozo

The only "response" so far is user bbatsell now trying to stamp the debate
again by claiming the place it is filed is "not the place" for it. He is so
dishonest he does not even bother to address the concerns raised about
abusive "archiving" and thread closings.

This is ongoing and systemic abuse. The fact that people like you are trying
still to attack me rather than addressing it is showing me a side of
Wikipedia I did not know about, but which sickens me.

As of now, I am unable to speak in my defense. Anything I try to post even
to my own talk page, user Trebor Rowntree is sitting around to abusively
remove.

So I am here. And from what I see here, just like on the administrators
noticeboard, you are more interested in trying to attack the messenger than
in investigating real abuses by your administrators. That certainly was the
intent of your message, "Dan."

I invite you to prove me wrong, but I don't hold any hopes that you will.
Previous example certainly shows me otherwise.

As far as this list is concerned, the first anybody has apparently
> heard of you is in your barrage of messages, culminating in your
> threats to quit and/or withdraw your contributions and/or become a
> vandal... all posted here before anybody has even had a chance to
> react to your issues or concerns.
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