[WikiEN-l] WP:EPISODE

Nathan Awrich nawrich at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 21:57:10 UTC 2007


Is there a technical reason why 'breakout' articles can't be article
subpages? In that way they wouldn't be articles in themselves, but
subsets of other articles, and you could judge the notability of an
article in whole without judging its individual components separately.
Maybe a worry that a proliferation of article subpages would make
things unmanageable?

On Dec 21, 2007 4:44 PM, Matthew Brown <morven at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2007 1:07 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That sounds like an excellent argument for trashing the "notability"
> > guideline, which has always been deeply problematic, particularly for
> > its subjectivity.
>
> Wholly agreed.
>
> Additionally, most such articles exist as break-outs from an article
> that nobody is arguing should be deleted.  Breaking out detail that
> would make the primary article unwieldy is a long accepted Wikipedia
> practise.
>
> > Remember that the Wikipedia jargon word "notability" originated as a
> > back-formation from "non-notable," which was Votes For Deletion jargon
> > for "I don't like it." And that's about all it still is.
>
> Notability is the attempt to provide solid rules for deletion because
> of the criticism that 'non-notable' is subjective.  However,
> consistent subjectivity is still subjective, no matter how consistent
> it is.
>
> Notability is also not well derived from core policy, IMO.
>
> -Matt
>
>
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