[WikiEN-l] Links to Myspace in External Links section

Matthew Brown morven at gmail.com
Wed Apr 25 21:45:03 UTC 2007


On 4/25/07, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> > I don't see why civility needs to be limited to community members,
> > however that term may be defined.
> >
> Social issues only kick in with community members.

Not so.

Firstly, many people are potential community members or indeed simply
fairly new community members.

Secondly, the way we treat good-faith contributors who are not
regulars impacts our reputation in the wider world.

Thirdly, the way we treat non-regulars impacts the way we behave
towards everyone.

> > Dialogue before dispute saves a lot of problems.  When you delete first
> > you are presuming that you are right do so, and that sets in motion a
> > completely different social dynamic.
>
> I'm not going to contact the person who added all the "Fair Use"
> images I remove. I don't even know who they were in most cases. If
> they object they are free to contact me. Contacting people before
> making edits is not normal wikipedia practice.

Actually, in most cases, informing the uploader and tagging the image
for seven-day deletion is normal practice.  This is normally done in a
semi-automated fashion with notification templates and is not a great
imposition, even if you don't have automated tools to speed this up.

This of course doesn't apply to egregiously bad misapplications which
can probably be speedied, since little attempt to do the right thing
have been made.

-Matt



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