[WikiEN-l] [WikiEn-l] Image tagging followup

John Lee johnleemk at gawab.com
Fri Mar 10 18:46:33 UTC 2006


Guettarda wrote:

>On 3/10/06, Stan Shebs <shebs at apple.com> wrote:
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>>Mark Wagner wrote:
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>>Here's a thought - "fair use" images need to go through a review process
>>*before* uploading, sort of like featured articles. If the "fair use image
>>candidate" gets through the process, then it can be recorded and we don't
>>have to fight about it anymore.
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>I have reservations about this.  Fair use is a grey area legally - it's a
>permissible violation of copyright.  If we had a formal review process,
>might that not make the project more liable if we get it wrong?
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So, uh, the situation is to pretend the problem doesn't exist?

>  In
>addition, if we make fair use more difficult, then we are likely to get
>people tagging images with free tags.  If they are tagged as fair use, a lot
>of obvious violations show up.  On the other hand, if it's mis-tagged as
>{{GFDL}}, we'd really have to go to the source.
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That's absolutely correct. As much as I hate to say it, I'm beginning to 
think that the only way to solve this is to thwack all clueless people 
WRT fair use with a clue stick, and to just continue reviewing images as 
we stumble upon them. Reviewing them at the point of entry will just 
encourage people to lie on purpose instead of just unconsciously make a 
mistake.

>I would rather make it a requirement that the uploader list a source or the
>name of the copyright holder.  Lots of images don't have a source clearly
>marked, and don't have information about the copyright holder.  How can we
>even hope to verify licensing if we don't know who holds the copyright (or
>at worst, where it came from)
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>Ian
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That's a very good idea. We should make a specific, mandatory field for 
this. Of course, we then run the risk of people making up sources and 
copyright holder names...

John



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