[WikiEN-l] Support freedum of infromashuon

Keith Old keithold at gmail.com
Tue Nov 29 01:55:56 UTC 2005


Fastfission,

Very well put.

Apart from being massively POV, it would also be original research. We
should base our articles on verifiable material published in other reliable
sources. We should not be publishing original documents ourselves. At best,
it would be a matter for Wikisource.

Regards


*Keith Old*

Keith Old
User:Capitalistroadster


On 11/29/05, Fastfission <fastfission at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've got no problem with "freedom of information" and certainly think
> that this alleged memo should be published widely when and if it is
> released/exists/etc., but Wikipedia and the WMF cannot be vehicles for
> this sort of political controversy (talk about POV pushing). If WP has
> any legal obligation to follow the Official Secrets Act or whatever (I
> imagine it does -- the idea that the UK and US wouldn't have worked
> out these sorts of things in treaties seems unrealistic to me) then it
> shouldn't break the law. Doing so would put the whole project at risk
> for what would in practice be little gain. I do not think there will
> be a difficulty in finding people to post the contents of whatever
> this memo is. If it comes down to Wikipedia being the last possible
> outlet in the world, then maybe we could talk about it.
>
> And let's also remember that Wikipedia is a place full of contributors
> from all political and ideological backgrounds, all of which are
> welcome to contribute as long as they obey a few simple rules.
>
> FF
>
>
>
> On 11/28/05, stevertigo <vertigosteve at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Since Wikipedia is supposed to be, like, into this
> > 'freedom of information thing,' (and stuff) and, like,
> > that includes our friends even in the UK, who arent
> > used to like, living under freedom (and stuff)...
> >
> > I thought it might not be out of our mandate to put
> > this little image (
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Illpublish.png ) on
> > the front page. Maybe even at Wikisource! (Im sure
> > somebody here is an admin there. Ive only got my meta
> > priveleges left now - snif!). The image is a little
> > white box that says "Ill publish the Al Jazeera memo."
> > It may or may not be linked to the Blairwatch.org
> > site.
> >
> > Anyway, though it might, like, be cheezy to stand up
> > for freedom of information (and stuff) though. Plus,
> > that might violate Wikisource's NOR policy.
> >
> > Stevertigo
> >  Confused: Is it still called 'Valspeak'
> >  when a guy uses it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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