[teampractices] Scrum-y tools based on BZ (was Re: Scrumbu.gs)

Toby Negrin tnegrin at wikimedia.org
Wed Nov 6 03:49:17 UTC 2013


We used Kanban for infrastructure and ops tasks at my previous job. It works really well with dependencies that don't fit in well with time-boxed iterations.

It also may be suitable for teams with large numbers of interrupts. 

-Toby

> On Nov 5, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
> Going back to the original topic of this thread - extending Bugzilla
> for PM - the scrumbu.gs developer has helpfully given me some good
> feedback from their experience. I've invited him and other folks at
> Mozilla to join the conversation here if they're interested, but to
> recap:
> 
> 1) Instead of Scrum, some teams at Mozilla use Kanban (less focus on
> velocity, roles, rituals; more focus on just tracking ongoing work and
> limiting work-in-progress). This is more comparable to the lightweight
> workflow that e.g. the Mobile App teams and Growth teams at WMF are
> currently using, though I'm not sure we've ever formally implemented
> some aspects of Kanban on these teams like WIP limits and lead time
> estimation - perhaps Steven or Tomasz can speak to that. My take is
> that  Kanban is good for small teams and Scrum's benefits kick in on
> larger, more complex projects.
> 
> Kanban is the kind of workflow that a tool like Trello is good for;
> Mozilla likes Kanbanery (proprietary) and wrote a Firefox extension to
> tie it into Bugzilla:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kanbugger/
> 
> 2) There's an intern project called Kanbanzilla that looks more like a
> full-on Kanban board integrated with Bugzilla. I've asked if there's a
> live setup somewhere, but here's the code if anyone wants to poke at
> it:
> 
> https://github.com/mozilla/kanbanzilla
> 
> Cheers,
> Erik
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing, Greg! I've also reached out to the scrumbu.gs
>> developer. I'd like to coordinate a bit more with Andre/Quim, but it'd
>> definitely be great to see if a joint approach with other major
>> players to improving our open source agile team tooling. Like I said,
>> I think Mingle is a great tool for now (and don't want to discourage
>> its use now that we've just started to get good at it), but getting a
>> good open alternative to work well for everyone is going to take a
>> long time, so we should start thinking about this early.
>> 
>> Erik
>> 
>> --
>> Erik Möller
>> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Erik Möller
> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
> 
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