Link to result of Formeir contrib survey on the strategic planning wiki
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On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:48 PM, pbeaudette(a)wikimedia.org <
pbeaudette(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Howie has the data I believe.
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From: "Oliver Keyes" <scire.facias(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: [Gendergap] Example of Typical Response from Some Women
To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <
gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
As said, we need a proper survey on the matter. Surveys are always going to
be beset with statistical errors, but this seems a fairly vital thing. I
think I mentioned before that, last year, the WMF did a general survey of
people who had left Wikipedia and why. I think a good first step would be
finding out where that data is and, if it included gender in the filled-out
forms, comparing male and female reasons for leaving. If it did not, take
the general statistical model and apply it again, including a gender entry,
and compare the results.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Sandra ordonez
<sandratordonez(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I think it does affect women more, but this is
just my personal
observation. And I should have put "typical response I ve gotten from
women." This is why i love wikipedia - really helps you be very aware of
your language. Thanks Oliver!!
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Oliver Keyes <scire.facias(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> Yah, that's what I meant; newbie ignorance isn't a problem. Our attitude
> to newbie ignorance is the problem :P. This is something I think all new
> editors are at risk of (being shouted at and falling off the grid as a
> result) - I'm not sure why it would affect women more, or if it does at
all.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Dominic <dmcdevit(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Newbie ignorance is never a problem. All newbies are, by nature,
>> ignorant of our policies and practices. We all started out that way.
And
the
>> great thing about wikis is that that is
okay and you can still
contribute.
>> If anything, the problem is intolerance
of newbies. (That may be what
you
>> really meant anyway, but I think it is
better to turn that phrase
"newbie
>> ignorance" around.)
>>
>> Dominic
>>
>>
>> On 2/11/11 5:49 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
>>
>> "Typical response from some women" should be "a response from a
woman".
>> So the problem, then, is newbie ignorance about our rules and policies?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Sandra ordonez <
>> sandratordonez(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to share. Yesterday I put something on my facebook re:
>>> gender gap. My friend from high school, who totally would be a woman
who
>>> would enjoy editing an encyclopedia,
posted the following:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Whenever I edit it usually gets taken down but some OCD nerd, that
>>> probably wants no one touching "their" site so I stopped
bothering."
>>>
>>>
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