[Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com
Tue Nov 29 23:51:04 UTC 2011


Am 29.11.2011 23:47, schrieb Kim Bruning:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:09:04AM +0100, M?ller, Carsten wrote:
>>> ... but -if we want to reach consensus[1]- what we really need to be
>>> discussing is: screwdrivers.
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>> 	Kim Bruning
>>>
>> No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers and drills.
>> We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
> Right, hammering ourselves on the thumb is a bad idea :-P
>
> However, there's nothing wrong with making sure that people
> don't get odd images when they don't expect it (something
> wikipedia is good at, but commons admittedly perhaps slightly
> less so). This is the screw.
That is more or less a search and time issue. If you search for a 
cucumber and a sexual related image ranks first instead of an actual 
cucumber then it would be time to improve the search function. If we 
have not enough people categorizing images the right way, we might start 
to recruit more helpers.

If we are careful enough we might be able to recycle the hammer to 
construct two or more small screwdrivers an argument against the image 
filter that is read as this: "Put more effort inside ideas how to 
improve search functionality and to help categorizing. It will actually 
help everyone and would get clear referendum results." ;P
> I don't think a filter (the hammer) will be very successful at
> doing so, because filters have simply never been very good at
> keeping away unexpected content, and can easily lead to
> censorship and other unwanted side effects (hitting ourselves
> on the thumb).  However, perhaps some other tool might be
> useful for fixing the screw. Some people have come up with some
> interesting proposals.
>
> But shouting at each other about filters is probably
> counter-productive at this point. ;-)
>
> sincerely,
> 	Kim Bruning
>




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