[Commons-l] People trying to withdraw their released images

Robert Rohde rarohde at gmail.com
Mon Aug 4 22:58:48 UTC 2008


Perhaps I am missing something, but we seem to be fighting over the
hypothetical difference between GFDL-1.2 and GFDL-self.  I say
"hypothetical" because unless or until there is a new version of the GFDL
beyond 1.2 there is no functional difference at all.

Any chance people can take a breather and perhaps talk this out?
Getting to a 3 month block on Commons for a DE-wiki admin seems to be
a remarkable degree of escalation for a problem that has no immediate
consequences.  (I don't want to single out either Cecil or Steschke here,
since escalation clearly happened on both sides.)  More talking, and less
reverting, surely would have helped here.

Sadly, I don't speak German, but perhaps someone who does can help sort this
out?

-Robert Rohde


2008/8/4 Cecil <cecilatwp at gmail.com>

> I've just subst-ed all images Steschkes uploaded before his licence change
> (and he definitely was aware about the licence when he uploaded the images).
> So with the rest of the images the new version of his licence is valid.
> Sadly Steschke immediately started with insults and then began to revert the
> substing. Now your opinion is needed: I have blocked him for now to stop him
> reverting to the stricter licence (his insults I can ignore, it's his
> typcial behaviour), but he uploaded several good images until May. Tthat's
> about when it was noticed that he changes cc-by-sa and GDFL-self to GFDL1.2
> and the whole fight started. Should we just protect the images from him or
> accept that he probably never will be a productive user anymore. If you
> think that there is still hope please unblock him and protect the 124 images
> in my contributions list from beginning with Image:DE Manfred Maier
> 2007-10-09 by Steschke.jpg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:DE_Manfred_Maier_2007-10-09_by_Steschke.jpg>‎
> (
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20080901000000&limit=127&contribs=user&target=Cecil&namespace=6&year=2008&month=8&day=4
> )
>
> Cecil
>
>
> 2008/8/4 Daniel Schwen <lists at schwen.de>
>
>  > While protection may make sense when there is a problem, pre-emptive
>> > protection of all user-license templates is both rude and unnecessary.
>>
>> Yeah, that came out wrong. There are two options. Either the user subst
>> his
>> templates, or they get protected. We've had both before.
>>
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