Yaroslav,
thanks for your thoughts! We have had a couple of WP users, acting the way
you describe, but it is my firm belief that they won't stay for
long. Actually, I'd say thay are probably gone already. We see it as a
temporary problem, something we really do not have to worry about, but it
is necessary to monitor whatever they decide to put in.
Furthermore, we have seen the same kind of anonymous edits you mention
regarding lists of cities, etc etc. It is not easy to decide what's good or
bad, but we console ourselves with the fact WV does not have a deadline.
So, we remove the most dreadful contributions, leave what seems fine, and
generally try to act according to the "when in doubt..." theory.
Prior to launch (actually, on the same day of the launch...), I wrote to
our local chapter of Wikimedia and asked their press contact to have a look
at the press release on meta, which I had translated into Swedish. He was
really happy to hear about the project and posted the press release on
some... hm... press release site. One of the national newspapers wrote an
article about WV. I have been asked to write something for a blogger and
net activist who seems to be in demand, even though I have never heard of
him... I also maintain contact with known Wikipedians who contribute to
Wikivoyage, relying on word of mouth and their positive attitude to
facilitate the project.
So, keep up the good work, Yaroslav! I am sure that this will turn out
fine, even if it might take some time. Rome wasn't built in a day...
Regards,
Riggwelter/Mattias
2013/1/18 Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru>
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:59:22 +0100, Mattias Sweden
wrote:
Hello all,
a few reflections from the swedish horizon, after a few days under the
WMF umbrella:
...
Riggwelter/Mattias
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Thanks for your thoughtful post and your impressions.
Unfortunately we on Russian Wikivoyage see the situation quite differently:
- We have a huge influx of users who intend to write the second Wikipedia.
They go to the articles on their hometown or create articles on their
hometown, and start filling them by stuff like the complete list of bus
lines or at best a numbered list of sights, or even plain copyying
Wikipedia articles. Most of them do not react even on a talk page message.
- We have a bunch of Russian Wikipedia users who are unhappy with
everything, they do not like the name "Traveller Pub", they want online
links to Wikipedia, and they generally fail to appreciate the fact that the
project already exists for quite some time. One of them even went as far as
writing on an external site that he will never ever contribute to
Wikivoyage and leaving a link on the Traveller Pub. Most of them did not
bother contributing to the project in any other way.
- We have a lot of people, mostly IPs, who believe that what is written in
the articles is wrong and should be corrected, for instance they amend the
regions so that they strictly reflect administrative divisions, they add
cities to the list endlessly, and so on.
- We have a lot of random changes adding and removing hotels, amending
prices etc, which are probably correct but impossible to check;.
- 95% of edits are done by IPs who never return.
- And finally we had three or four articles written by new users which are
really good. If the users stay that would be a great addition to the
project, since we are currently five of six active contributors, and three
of us are constantly monitoring recent changes and can not do anything
else. However, I recognize all of these contributors also as active users
in Russian Wikipedia, and this is why I believe they are not going to stay,
they just came to complete one or two articles.
Cheers
Yaroslav
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