Hello Samuel,
I met an old fella in Tuvalu about to work on a Tuvaluan dictionary and
phrase book. He attended both Wikieducator workshops I ran there. Nice old
guy but struggled with technology a bit. Perhaps if there is funding anyone
knows of, his Department of Ed could pay him for an assistant to do just as
you suggest. I'll forward this email on to people in that Department
there...
2008/11/26 Samuel Klein <sj(a)laptop.org>
I was recently talking to my colleague Iain Thomson @
OLPC oceania,
and he mentioned some of the work going on on Niue (the first nation
in the world to reach saturation @ one laptop per child :) in terms of
producing open content and learning materials. Among their
initiatives, they have a complete niu <--> en dictionary that seems
likely to be available under a free license. Presumably it would be
more complete than bestselling author Philip Parker's version[1]. It
would need digitization and some posting online... but this could
launch
niu.wiktionary.org ...
Are there any active wiktionary efforts for related Oceanic languages?
I think there is other great material coming out of oceania thanks to
Ian and David Leeming that should soon be available for wiktionary,
wikisource, and wikiversity.
SJ
[1]
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/translation/Niue/
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
Do not forget the
als.wikipedia.org. It stands for Alsatian, but the als
code is the Tosk language. The "gsw" code is the code that should have
been
used.
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=gsw
The nrm.wikipedia is also using a wrong code. nrm is Narom, a language
from
Malaysia. Nourmande is not recognised as a
language, consequently there
is
no code available for it. I propose to use qaa
for this.
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/scope.asp#R
Thanks,
Gerard<
2008/11/26 Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com>
> Don't forget zh-yue → yue and zh-min-nan → nan; these languages have got
> valid ISO 639-3 codes since creation. Also, als should be moved to gsw
(als
> is the code for Tosk Albanian, while als in
Wikimedia is Alemannisch -
not
> even close to Tosk Albanian).
>
> 2008/11/26 Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org>
>
> > For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our
> > system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our configuration that
> > make automatic relationships between the database name and the domain
> > name, so this has delayed renaming of some language subdomains for a
> while.
> >
> > It's not impossible to have them be different, just fairly awkward. :)
> >
> > I'd like to get these done soon, but before we get started, I want to
> > make sure the queue is complete and ready to go. I've currently got
four
> > language code renames that I see being
requested...
> >
> > == Aromanian ==
> >
> >
roa-rup.wikipedia.org ->
rup.wikipedia.org
> >
roa-rup.wiktionary.org ->
rup.wiktionary.org
> >
> >
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15988
> >
> > ISO-639-2 code 'rup' was added in September 2005, and can supersede
the
> > generic 'roa' code with
'rup' subtag.
> >
> > This seems pretty uncontroversial. Existing domains and interwikis
would
> > be redirected.
> >
> >
> > == Low German ==
> >
> >
nds.wikipedia.org ->
nds-de.wikipedia.org
> >
nds.wikibooks.org ->
nds-de.wikibooks.org
> >
nds.wikiquote.org ->
nds-de.wikiquote.org
> >
nds.wiktionary.org ->
nds-de.wiktionary.org
> >
> >
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8540
> >
> > Reasoning: Disambiguation of country variants to create a portal site
> > (
nds-nl.wikipedia.org exists as well).
> >
> > The original request is almost 2 years old and didn't seem to have any
> > clear consensus; is this still desired?
> >
> > Creating a portal site could cause difficulties with URL
compatibility,
> > and I don't really recommend making
this change without clear
consensus
> > from the community there.
> >
> > Note that
nds.wikipedia.org includes a link on the front page to
> >
nds-nl.wikipedia.org.
> >
> >
> > == Moldovan ==
> >
> >
mo.wikipedia.org ->
mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org
> >
mo.wiktionary.org ->
mo-cyrl.wiktionary.org
> >
> > The official Moldovan language is the same as Romanian, using Latin
> > script and same orthography as on
ro.wikipedia.org. Latin script was
> > officially adopted in 1989, replacing Soviet-era Cyrillic script; use
of
> > Cyrillic script is still
"official" in an unrecognized,
> > lightly-populated breakaway region but if people there use it, they
> > don't seem to edit Wikipedia...
> >
> > The 'mo' language code has been officially deprecated from ISO 639-1/2
> > as of November 3, 2008; "Moldovan" in general use is just Romanian,
and
> > is covered by
ro.wikipedia.org.
> >
> >
mo.wikipedia.org has not actually been edited since December 2006.
> >
mo.wiktionary.org seems to have.... 4 definition pages, which only
> > contain translations (no definitions!) Being inactive, these projects
> > could be closed in addition to / instead of the rename.
> >
> > Use of tag 'mo-cyrl' would follow existing IANA-registered language
> > subtags such as 'bs-Cyrl' and 'bs-Latn' for Cyrillic and Latin
script
> > variants.
> >
> > Most likely, for compatibility we would redirect the existing 'mo'
URLs
> > to the new 'mo-cyrl' ones, but
they would now be visibly marked by the
> > subtag as being "yes we know, it's Cyrillic here". If we're
going to
> > lock the site as well, adding a sitenotice pointing to the Romanian
wiki
> > is probably wise.
> >
> >
> > == Belorusian "old orthography" ==
> >
> >
be-x-old.wikipedia.org ->
be-tarask.wikipedia.org
> >
> >
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9823
> >
> > Some time ago we swapped around the Belorusian Wikipedia, moving the
> > previous version which was primarily using a non-official orthography,
> > from 'be' to 'be-x-old', and re-establishing
be.wikipedia.org
using
the
> > official state orthography.
> >
> > There was later a request to rename 'be-x-old' (using a non-standard
> > code) to 'be-tarask', a IANA-registered subtag which is rather more
> > descriptive. IMHO this change should not be terribly controversial --
if
> > we're not closing it, we may as well
give it its official RFC
> > 4646-registered code.
> >
> > Old domain and interwikis would be redirected.
> >
> >
> > -- brion vibber (brion @
wikimedia.org)
> >
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