Hoi,
You can not be expected to read everything nor can you expect that
everything that is of interest to you is presented to you in a way that is
optimal for you. There has been a genuine effort to involve people, this is
clear because there are several ways in which you can find relevant
information.
If you or I want to blame the other, we get into a negative spiral, it will
gain us nothing. What is at issue is that there is a need that can be
fulfilled with the Babel extension and all the necessary parts for it are
there.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Chad <innocentkiller(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
There is no single way of informing people about something that might be
of
interest to them. This thread started as a thread
to three mailing lists,
it
is now only visible to developers.
This extension has been documented on Meta, there is info on
Mediawiki.org
.. it has been discussed on IRC. There have been
commits. There will
always
be people that do not get the message. People
that will say that the
communication was not good enough because they did not hear of it,
because
it did not attract their attention. You did not
consider the commit
messages
of interest, that is your problem it is not that
this information was not
there for you. And yes, there is too much information out there.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Chad <innocentkiller(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snip /]
> > The notion that this is a first time that the Babel template has been
> > discussed is flatly wrong. MinuteElection has discussed this on IRC on
> > several occasions. Pathoschild acknowledges that it has been
discussed
> in
> > the past but he chose to go his own way. In the mean time this
> functionality
> > provides a better mouse trap and as such it deserves to be
implemented.
Thanks,
GerardM
The notion that a discussion on IRC can get the range of views and
insight a mailing list can is also flatly wrong.
It was _not_ brought up publicly (on mailing lists, etc.), and thus the
community lacked the chance to give input. I saw commit messages
go by for an extension, but I do not automatically go look into it
(many extensions are of no interest to me, I would not, for example,
pay attention to a commit to the YouTube extension). Had I known
this was coming, I might've been more inclined to follow along and
comment before now.
-Chad
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To use a metaphor, it would be like you handing me a large
book and then faulting me when I hadn't read the one chapter
you wished to discuss. Now, is that my fault for not reading
the chapter, or yours, for not indicating it needed to be read?
(sorry about losing some of the lists, it can get confusing which
threads have gone where, for that I apologize)
-Chad
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