When filing a phab task with some new bug,
you always want to know - is it really new, or I just did not pay attention
to it before?
What's the purpose of this information? If it's a bug, new or not, a ticket
needs to be filed.
And when I do know it's a new bug, I can open both versions
in the same time, and compare the behaviour for this
bug. And also, compare
the console results - what exactly changed in html, in css, in js commands
reactions.
I agree that information will save some developer time but at the same time
this information is not so easy to gather. This is helpful when the users
have some working knowledge of how developer tools work and how to compare
file changes. Usually in each version there are a lot of new changes. Often
it's not easy for developers even to find out what could be causing the
bug.
I can easily imagine such a wiki quickly falling into disuse.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:29 PM, יגאל חיטרון <khitron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It can work. But another Monday. I mean, if
Tue-Wed-Thu there is a
deployment of version ....5, a day before, Mon there is a deployment of
version ....4, so starting from tomorrow, group 0 will get a way to see
both version, exactly from the beginning, but not until the end, for 6
days, group 1 for 5 days, and group 2 for 4 days. And from Monday to the
deployment, 1-2-3 days, there will not be use of this. I'll be very glad if
it will be decided to do this, and if so, it will be a good thing to add to
the text of how to report a bug in phabricator help, something about, you
can check if it is a regression, the last version "falt", by comparing with
this new wiki. I can thing about many dozens of tasks I wrote and read
where this information could be useful, if added at the first place. Hope
you decide this indeed. Thank you very much,
Igal
On Sep 22, 2017 05:17, "Chad" <innocentkiller(a)gmail.com> wrote:
No non-emergency deployments on Fridays,
Saturdays or Sundays.
Monday could work.
-Chad
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:15 PM יגאל חיטרון <khitron(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I glad you say so. What about Friday?
> Igal
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2017 05:07, "Chad" <innocentkiller(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It wouldn't be hard to do at all, technically. I imagine it'd be
> something
> > like a test3wiki.
> >
> > Main thing to know is when do we cycle off of the old version? When
the
> > version goes out on Tuesdays? That
day's already pretty loaded for
> software
> > moving about...
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:25 PM Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > Making your case here is probably best. The release engineering
team
are
> the people you probably have to convince,
although of course anyone
could
> > potentially create such a wiki, in an unofficial way.
> >
> > Keep in mind that keeping an older version of the software running
does
> > > introduce a maintinance burden, so you will probably have to
convince
> > > people that it would be regularly
useful and not just useful this
one
time.
>
> --
> bawolff
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2017, יגאל חיטרון <khitron(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > Thank you. Sorry to hear this. Is there some place I can suggest
this
and
> > explain why do I think it can be very helpful?
> > Igal
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2017 22:12, "Brian Wolff" <bawolff(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, September 21, 2017, יגאל חיטרון <
khitron(a)post.bgu.ac.il>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hi. Sometimes after the week deployment I need to compare the
new
> > > version
> > > >> > with the previous one, in some aspect. Is there a test wiki
that
> always
> >> has
> >> > one version before the current?
> >> > Thank you.
> >> > Igal (User:IKhitron)
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software
> >> and setup your own wiki but that is a lot of effort.
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