On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Isarra Yos <zhorishna(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Um... LQT has exactly that model. Yes, you can keep going, but you can keep
going in wikitext, too, even off the side of the page (which is exactly what
uncyclopedians do sometimes precisely because they want to go off the side
of the page because they think it's funny, because let's face it, it is
funny), but normally you just start a new conversation/thread/topic/whatever
you want to call it if it goes too far.
There's no way to solve the threading problem for long complex conversations
directly because while you need that threading in order to discern who is
responding to whom, or even what is going on in general, there is always
only so much space on the screen. We accept this, we outdent, or we refocus
with a new section after it gets too long/we feel like putting our usernames
in the ToC, or we even wind up just having everyone involved creating their
own thread from the start (because really, we all want our usernames in the
ToC), but the problem of how to handle it has been solved in practice.
LQT works well for the part of showing who is replying to who.
As for the cases where one would need to use {{outdent}} so that
each message has more horizontal space, I think it is possible for LQT/Flow
to have a system similar to this: when someone is reading a talkpage where there
is too many indentation, the user should be allowed to click in a given message
so that messages above it get collapsed, and its left margin is
reduced near to zero,
so that all replies (to replies (to replies...)) of that message now
have more space.
If reading this "thread" one gets too much indentation again, just
click in another message,
to focus on it, reset the margin again, and hide the previous comments.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:21 AM, Daniel Friesen
<daniel(a)nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote:
Perhaps the Flow interface needs high level support
for something like
that. Something like how Discourse lets you fork a message into a new
topic and displays an interface bit that links to the new topic.
LQT already allows that. One just need to click on "More" > "Drag to
new location"
and move it to a top level position. This will open a popup with this message:
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To complete the following actions, please fill in a reason and click "Confirm".
* Adjust post's position on the page
* Move post to its own thread
Reason: [__________________________________________________]
Subject for new thread (mandatory): [___________________________]
[Confirm]
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I've used this many times on Portuguese Wikibooks and it works well
for discussing new off-topic ideas which come up in the middle of
other discussions.
Best regards,
Helder