Thanks again Brian, it intended to be a more generic/rhetorical question,
rather than aimed directly at you. With matters like this, it is often the
situation of asking the question that challenges the status quo position.
To me it was/is not evident that we have recently asked the question of why
do we still retain local editing tabs for images at Commons. While it was
suggested to do a bugzilla, I do not see that a bugzilla is the means to
address this as it is not so much a technological decision, but instead a
community decision over a process.
I would see that this may be more about an RFC at meta that proposes that
the default for WMF wikis becomes no local editing tabs, though allows
local wikis to have the ability to turn on the paired local tabs by local
decision. So prior to launching such a discussion, could someone with the
hacking knowledge address how much programming change would be required to
have the situation of
* on File: ns, that for files at Commons, that the local tab can be turned
off as the default, and that local communities can have the ability to turn
on local tabs
* that where the above is set, that where local File: exist (in
combination with Commons File:), that the local ability to edit File: is
unaffected
Such an approach would seem to fit within the design of where some
communities have local upload, and for those that do not.
That gives the means for starting an RFC to propose the change to the
broader community, and will provide the solution for communities who wish
to opt out. Such an RFC should also address for local wikis, what local
tabs is provided to get editing available to files at Commons.
So as we have the views of many of the communities and the hackers, does
that sound like a reasonable approach to take to progress this matter?
Regards, Billinghurst
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:00:54 -0300, Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I actually agree with the encouraging people to go to
commons, however
there's probably a limit to what we can do with the tabs while still
having
a tab for creating local descriptions, which can be
useful sometimes.
Of course translatewiki takes the approach of just disabling edits in
the
there
is always that. I think there was some suggestion of
having an "edit on
commons" tab but as the commit summary noted (
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/104182/ ) there is the potential for
users to be confused about where they are editing and that suddenly they
are on another site (doubly so if not a wikimedia wiki with no sul)
Anyways, i should reiterate, the thanks should go to
[[User:This,_that_and_the_other]] who actually pushed the change
forward,
all I did was send some outreach notices about it.
Cheers,
Bawolff
On Apr 8, 2014 7:26 AM, "billinghurst" <billinghurst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Brian. I do wonder why we would encourage a local description,
> when there is better value (IMO) in having additional language
> description
> to the file at Commons.
>
> Regards, Billinghurst
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 00:28:46 -0300, Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi folks,
tl;dr : The navigation tabs at the top of pages like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Henri_Rousseau_009.jpg, are soon
going to look like
http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:16001000395904-Kirun…
> >
> > This is a small change, but its a UI change, so I thought a mail to
> > wikitech-ambassadors couldn't hurt. [[User:This,_that_and_the_other]]
> > recently made a cool change to how the tabs of image pages on local
> > wikis (wikipedia, etc) for files on commons, work. Previously such a
> > page displayed a "create" tab, and generally looked like what the
tabs
> > look like for a page that doesn't exist.
For example, see
> >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Henri_Rousseau_009.jpg . After
this
> > change there will be tabs for "View this
image on Wikimedia Commons"
> > and "Create local description" (or "Edit local description"
if it
> > already exists). There will be no changes to file pages at commons,
or
> > the file pages of locally uploaded files.
> >
> > The change is part of 1.23wmf22, and will probably go live on April
10
non-wikipedia
sister projects on April 15, and Wikipedias on April
17. (See
deployment calender at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap#Schedule_for_the_depl…
> > for details on the deployment schedule )
> >
> > You can view a screenshot of what it will look like at
> >
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_foreign_repo_file_tabs.png
. You can test it out for real right now at beta
wiki
http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:16001000395904-Kirun…
> >
> > --bawolff
> >
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