Bonjour,
Ceci fait suite à certaines remarques que je me souviens avoir lues
quelque part sur cette liste, à propos de l'édition des textes en Grec.
Manifestement, la: - et peut-être aussi el (mais dans ce dernier cas,
je ne comprends pas un mot de grec), ne possèdent pas l'extension Proof read page
ni cet autre instrument utilisé sur de:, dont on peut voir un exemple ici :
http://de.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Versuch_einer_Selbstkritik:1&act…
(d'ailleurs ne pourront-on pas utiliser ces deux types d'affichage sur un même wiki ?)
Alors je ne sais pas à qui m'adresser, mais il serait assez important, je pense,
que ces wiki (au moins la:, pour el: je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est) puissent
aussi avoir les moyens de garantir leurs éditions. Est-ce que quelqu'un sait
ce qu'il faut faire ?
Merci d'avance.
Marc
Valérie Chansigaud a écrit :
>
> Il ne faudrait pas sous-estimer l'importance du numéro de la page. Si
> les textes en ligne sont reliés à une version de référence (donc à UN
> tirage papier particulier) il sera facile de déterminer le numéro de la
> page. Loin d'être une gène ce numéro constitue un plus, notamment pour
> les chercheurs.
Pour en rajouter une couche, il arrive souvent que les articles d'abord
parus dans un périodique puis rassemblés dans un livre comportent
*aussi* les indications de page de la première édition. Évidemment comme
le fait remarquer Marc ça fait beaucoup de boulot.
Est-ce qu'il existe des règles/recommandations/pratiques/que sais-je
encore pour l'édition "scientifique" sur Wikisource ? J'ai parlé dans un
autre message de documents d'archive : est-ce qu'il y a des règles sur
le nom à donner à l'article correspondant ? ou des règles sur la
transcription du français moderne (XVIe-XVIIIe en gros) ?
Marie-Lan
[copie et suivi sur wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org]
Hello,
That's will probably interest poeple from Wikisource.
(from Commons and en.wp lists).
Regards,
Yann
David Gerard wrote:
This is a new, neat tool that helps you find whether certain US
published books are out of copyright even if they are published after
1923. As most copyright savvy people know, there was a period of time
after that in which copyrights had to be officially renewed to stay
valid, meaning that a lot of works published after that time are
officially in the public domain in the United States. But these are
hard to find, since renewal notices are hard to peruse and in many
cases not machine-searchable at all.
But no longer! Stanford has created a Copyright Renewal Database,
making it quite easy to check if any book published first in the U.S.
between 1923 and 1963 are in the public domain. It could potentially
clear up copyright ambiguities for certain things taken from these
works.
http://collections.stanford.edu/copyrightrenewals/
FF
Hello,
Mark Williamson wrote:
> I, for one, think it entirely unfair that you guys can just usurp a
> so-far very successful process.
>
> I think most people will agree that there were flaws with requests for
> NEW languages, but I think you will find it more difficult to find
> people who think we had any problem with Wikisource and Wikinews
> requests.
>
> I think (and this is just my opinion, but I would imagine at least
> someone out there agrees with me) that you should leave Wikinews and
> Wikisource be as they were before to process their own requests.
>
> Mark
I, for once, ;o)
agree with Mark here.
The process of new Wikisource creation is working quite well so far,
I don't see the need to change that.
Regards,
Yann
Hi, I have some problems with my Mail-provider, so I send you my comment once again.
-jkb-
also Jan
also jkbwiki
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Hi.
Comment from wikisource.org.
Last summer there was a surprizing creating of some 19 new subdomains of Wikisource without discussing it on the pages of the multilingual wikisource. It turned out, that the most of the new subdomains are dead up to today (see http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/Jan_2006_-_Dec_2…). Then we made a proposal for new rules and decided, when we shall recommend a creation of a new subdomain to avoid that. As in the past, the decision for support should be made on the multilingual wikisource as the admins there have a great experience with the languages and know how they work.
Therefore I was very glad that Luiz Augusto helped me to clear the question of the Tamil subdomain: the request is very very old, and there is the danger, that the users will loose their interest after waiting for more then half a year.
There has been no notice about a change of the policy concerning Wikisource on the pages of the multilingual Wikisource. There fore the news are a bit surprizing for me. But nevertheless, I will support any sollution which will guarantee that there will be created subdomains which do not work. But it must be clear which sollution it is. I will try to discuss this with orher admins and hope to get some help from the others.
-jkb-
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Hello,
The process on the multilingual Wikisource domain is not covered by
the language subcommittee yet; you'll notice that there is a redundant
process at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RFL#Wikisource>. The
secondary processes will eventually be merged into the Meta process
(probably a combination of both, not simply removing one), but we want
to make sure that the latter is working at a reasonable efficiency
first. As your sarcasm indicates you already know, we've had some
difficulty starting up.
I would suggest continuing to follow the Wikisource process, since the
request is there. This process is the same as it was on Meta until the
reform: file a bug request following community approval, and it might
be done eventually. I'm sorry that we can't do anything more at the
moment, but we're busy catching up on requests (for many projects,
*not* only Wikipedias) that were filed through the subcommittee
process in the transitional period.
Yours cordially,
Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
(This message is not an official statement of the language subcommittee.)
> From: "Luiz Augusto" <lugusto(a)gmail.com>
> Hi
>
> There is a successful and old request for opening a new wiki not yet
> fulfilled. Language prevention/creation committee/subcommittee or
> whatever/anything else, please forgive the MessagexXX.php paranoia and see
> requests for non-Wikipedias wikis a while.
>
> # [[:oldwikisource:]] have a [[Wikisource:Language domain requests]] page.
> # This page have at least one successful request for a new Wikisource wiki:
> Tamil Wikisource (ta.wikisource)
> ## This have a large community support:
> http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Language_domain_requests…
> ## This have "incubator" pages: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Tamil
> ## This have a bugzilla request:
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6982
> ## The MessagesTa.php is avaiable at MediaWiki SVN repository
> ## There is someone interested on editing in this non-existing exactly now:
> http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A-jkb-&diff=215093&oldid…
> ## I've asked about it on the langcom wiki yesterday but no one
> apparentlyhave read it.
>
> And, if the language prevention/creation committee/subcommittee or
> whatever/anything else isn't happy to increase the current amount of
> Wikimedia wikis, I found a good solution: open the ta.wikisource and close
> the ang.wikisource. No, no one have deleted the MessagesAng.php from
> subversion, this apparently has never created, but you can find a vote to
> close that wiki with large community support at:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Ol…
>
> Best regards
> [[:m:User:555]]
>
--
Yours cordially,
Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
I've started the following page:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Toolset
to collect a list of open source tools & open formats that are
commonly used to support Wikimedia projects. Mainly, this is for
external tools, rather than those developed within our community,
though I don't mind if it is expanded to cover both.
The purpose of having this page is to better inform decision-making
processes on all levels:
* directing volunteers who want to help us to work on particularly
useful open source projects
* directing editors to tools that help them with their day-to-day work
* possibly, even (when the Foundation is a bit more sustainable)
considering awarding development grants to some of them, or at least
helping them to pursue them by endorsing their grant proposals to
other organizations
* identifying key "missing pieces" that are not covered or not covered
well by the existing toolset (this might be a separate list).
I know many of you use specialized tools that are not well known.
There are also sure to be glaring omissions in the current list. I
would therefore appreciate all help to complete it.
--
Peace & Love,
Erik
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Hi
There is a successful and old request for opening a new wiki not yet
fulfilled. Language prevention/creation committee/subcommittee or
whatever/anything else, please forgive the MessagexXX.php paranoia and see
requests for non-Wikipedias wikis a while.
# [[:oldwikisource:]] have a [[Wikisource:Language domain requests]] page.
# This page have at least one successful request for a new Wikisource wiki:
Tamil Wikisource (ta.wikisource)
## This have a large community support:
http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Language_domain_requests…
## This have "incubator" pages: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Tamil
## This have a bugzilla request:
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6982
## The MessagesTa.php is avaiable at MediaWiki SVN repository
## There is someone interested on editing in this non-existing exactly now:
http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A-jkb-&diff=215093&oldid…
## I've asked about it on the langcom wiki yesterday but no one
apparentlyhave read it.
And, if the language prevention/creation committee/subcommittee or
whatever/anything else isn't happy to increase the current amount of
Wikimedia wikis, I found a good solution: open the ta.wikisource and close
the ang.wikisource. No, no one have deleted the MessagesAng.php from
subversion, this apparently has never created, but you can find a vote to
close that wiki with large community support at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Ol…
Best regards
[[:m:User:555]]
