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> I'm fairly certain this is about monobook on Wikipedia in general, as
> Florence primarily uses frwiki, I believe. I have the same issues with
> whatever language Wikipedia I use.
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As of today, the "FlaggedRevs" extension is available to any wiki
community that wishes to use it. FlaggedRevs is a tool for patrolling
changes, identifying high quality article versions, and changing the
default version shown to unregistered users. It's highly configurable.
As such, we're making it available in two configurations:
1) A minimally intrusive "patrolling" configuration;
2) Custom configurations per your request.
== Who needs this feature and where can I see it? ==
Larger wiki communities will probably benefit more from the use of
this feature than smaller ones. If you have problems keeping vandalism
in check, and/or want to experiment with new ways to identify high
quality content, you should look into this functionality.
You can see an English language demo installation of the feature at:
http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/
The feature is in production use on the German Wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/
The German Wikipedia uses a custom configuration where the most recent
vandalism-patrolled version, if any, is shown to unregistered users.
You can track the progress of their use of the patrolling feature
here:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~aka/cgi-bin/reviewcnt.cgi?lang=english
== Patrolling Configuration ==
In the Patrolling Configuration, any user who has been registered for
more than 21 days and has made at least 150 edits will be
automatically given the permission to patrol changes for vandalism.
Only changes made by users who are not permitted to patrol changes
need to be patrolled.
In addition, sysops will be given the permission to flag versions of
"featured articles" in accordance with existing nomination processes.
(In other words, this gives you the ability to identify specific
_versions_ of an article as "featured", rather than the article as a
whole.) Finally, sysops will be permitted to define on a per-page
basis that changes need to be patrolled before being visible to
unregistered readers. This is an alternative to semi-protection; it
doesn't make sense to use both on a given page.
The use of these features is subject to policies that your wiki
community will need to develop. They should be used carefully until
such a policy is in place.
To activate the patrolling configuration,
1) File a request on http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ of type
"enhancement", component "site request". You may need to create a
BugZilla account to do this.
2) Title your request "Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on
(my project name)".
3) Post a link to your BugZilla request to your project's "Village
pump" and mailing list, if available.
If there are no objections on the BugZilla page, the request will be
considered valid after 7 days. (It may still take a while longer to
process it.)
== Custom Configurations ==
The FlaggedRevs extension is highly flexible in its configuration. We
are willing to accommodate custom requests. Since some configurations
of FlaggedRevs could be considered highly disruptive, the requirements
are somewhat higher.
1) Read about the configuration options at:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
and experiment with the live demo at:
http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/
2) Create a page in the "Project:" namespace (e.g. "Wikipedia:",
"Wikibooks:") of your wiki community describing the configuration you
want to use.
3) Create a BugZilla request as above, titled "Enable FlaggedRevs
custom configuration on (my project name)" pointing to the proposal
page you have created. Provide an English translation of all relevant
information if possible - or we may not be able to help you.
4) Post a link to your proposal and to the BugZilla request to the
various relevant channels of your wiki community, e.g. "village pump",
mailing list.
If there are no objections within 14 days, your request will be
considered valid. If there are objections, please try building
consensus. If necessary, you can also resort to a poll (a very large
majority, at least two thirds, is generally necessary).
Note that custom configurations will take longer to process, and might
sit in the technical support queue for several weeks.
Our developers will _only_ look at the information attached to the
BugZilla request, so please make sure that everything relevant is at
least linked from there.
== Translators needed ==
The user interface of the FlaggedRevs extension needs to be translated
into as many languages as possible. The extension can be localized
using http://translatewiki.net/ - please follow the instructions there
to become a translator.
== User interface developers needed ==
If you are a PHP developer with JavaScript/CSS experience, your help
in improving the user interface experience (by improving the CSS or
adding AJAX features) would be appreciated. Just check out a fresh
copy of the MediaWiki code and the FlaggedRevs code and get started:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversionhttp://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
If you need committer access to our version control system, please
e-mail <commitaccess at wikimedia dot org>, attaching your SSH key and
desired username as per the above link.
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Hello,
The menu on the left hand side lists, in this order
Navigation
Main Page
Contents
Featured content
Current events
Random article
interaction
About Wikipedia
Community portal
Recent changes
Contact Wikipedia
Donate to Wikipedia
Help
search
search box
----------
Problem: on small screens, the search box is not visible and readers
must scroll each time they get to a new page to find it.
Whether we are happy with this, or would prefer that people navigate
three featured content or indexes or random article, does not change the
fact that most poeple actually use search system on internet.
What about changing the search box place ?
Perhaps under the logo. Or below the Navigation block. Or fully at the
top of the page ?
Ant
Just to remember you that issues about de :en should be argueed in the :en,
not in the list of wikimedia
Thanks,
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:30:16 +0200
> From: Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Useability
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>> Florence Devouard wrote:
>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>>> Florence Devouard wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> The menu on the left hand side lists, in this order
>>>>>
>>>>> Navigation
>>>>> Main Page
>>>>> Contents
>>>>> Featured content
>>>>> Current events
>>>>> Random article
>>>>> interaction
>>>>> About Wikipedia
>>>>> Community portal
>>>>> Recent changes
>>>>> Contact Wikipedia
>>>>> Donate to Wikipedia
>>>>> Help
>>>>> search
>>>>> search box
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem: on small screens, the search box is not visible and readers
>>>>> must scroll each time they get to a new page to find it.
>>>>> Whether we are happy with this, or would prefer that people navigate
>>>>> three featured content or indexes or random article, does not change
>>>>> the
>>>>> fact that most poeple actually use search system on internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about changing the search box place ?
>>>>> Perhaps under the logo. Or below the Navigation block. Or fully at the
>>>>> top of the page ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ant
>>>> I think if you mosey over to Special:Preferences and choose the
>>>> Skin Classic, your problems are much eased.
>>>>
>>>> A completely different question is why it is only Classic
>>>> that places the box in that convenient location...
>>>>
>>>> Yours;
>>>>
>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>>> Jussi
>>>
>>> Note that I enjoy a large laptop which does not create this problem.
>>>
>>> It was reported to me by a head of web companies (whose name I will not
>>> give) and who use a smaller laptop. Most users/readers of wikipedia have
>>> NO idea there are different skins, and that they might have access to a
>>> different interface if they were loggued-in.
>>>
>>> Ant
>>
>> Interesting. Reminds me of when we originally moved to
>> "monobook". There was a real but brief episode where
>> somebody using the nick "bgates" came into the channel
>> #wikipedia on Internet Relay Chat, and very swiftly
>> exited, after getting an answer that appeared to all
>> present to be a sincerely technical one...
>>
>> I confess I have ever since wondered was that the "real"
>> "bgates" or just somebody with a sense of humour, who
>> nevertheless was discomfited by our move to monobook.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>
> Eh :-)
>
> Well, in this case, the guy was real :-)
> I met him at http://assisesdunumerique.fr/actualites/
>
> Nice opportunity by the way, to mention that last week, I met with
> various important people (at French scale), in the name of our prime
> minister (Fillon), the minister of education and research (Pecresse) and
> the secretary in charge of Innovation, digital economy and etc ... (Eric
> Besson).
>
> I had the very "blushing-experience" of being both cited by Fillon
> (once) and Besson (twice) in a public event. I actually met Besson 3
> times in two days, including a 7 members-2 hours breakfast at the
> minister, around digital economy considerations.
>
> One of the top (hot) topic is that Besson has been asked by the prime
> minister to come with a series of propositions by end of july, regarding
> digital economy in France. I must point out that the very-short delay
> for this plan is
> 1) because our government was restructed recently (and for the first
> time, digital economy was given to a specific minister, rather than
> being nicely divided between minister of culture, of education, of
> industry etc..., and
> 2) because France will become president of Europe this summer, so
> obviously want to be a leading force of proposition in various areas,
> including internet considerations.
>
> Anyway, the Assises du Numerique are usually an opportunity for
> *important* people (that is... politicians, industrial leaders, public
> services) to discuss of the future of our country and come up with
> propositions. Access is restricted.
>
> This year, they decided to have unrestricted access to the Assises, the
> expand them to a collection of local Assises all accross the country, to
> let completely open the number of propositions which can be done, AND to
> open a wiki to either comment or tweak the current propositions, or to
> make NEW propositions. Is not that amazing ?
>
> THe wiki was opened yesterday:
> http://wiki.assisesdunumerique.fr/xwiki/bin/view/Assises/
>
> Poeple must log in to access the wiki, but creation of account is
> totally opened. I tested it yesterday during the Assises. License is
> cc-by 1.0.
>
> I hope the french editors will take direct action and be a force of
> proposition. Otherwise, it would really mean that we should not complain
> in the future if the laws and activity of the government does not please
> us. We should only complain if they refuse our propositions ;-)
>
> More to come later on the topic. Just wanted to mention it was the first
> time that my government was actually OPENING a place for us to work on
> action points together.
>
> THIS is also thanks to us guys...
>
> Ant
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:14:37 +0300
> From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Useability
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> Florence Devouard wrote:
>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>> Interesting. Reminds me of when we originally moved to
>>> "monobook". There was a real but brief episode where
>>> somebody using the nick "bgates" came into the channel
>>> #wikipedia on Internet Relay Chat, and very swiftly
>>> exited, after getting an answer that appeared to all
>>> present to be a sincerely technical one...
>>>
>>> I confess I have ever since wondered was that the "real"
>>> "bgates" or just somebody with a sense of humour, who
>>> nevertheless was discomfited by our move to monobook.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>>
>> Eh :-)
>>
>> Well, in this case, the guy was real :-)
>> I met him at http://assisesdunumerique.fr/actualites/
>>
>> Nice opportunity by the way, to mention that last week, I met with
>> various important people (at French scale), in the name of our prime
>> minister (Fillon), the minister of education and research (Pecresse) and
>> the secretary in charge of Innovation, digital economy and etc ... (Eric
>> Besson).
>>
>> I had the very "blushing-experience" of being both cited by Fillon
>> (once) and Besson (twice) in a public event. I actually met Besson 3
>> times in two days, including a 7 members-2 hours breakfast at the
>> minister, around digital economy considerations.
>>
>> One of the top (hot) topic is that Besson has been asked by the prime
>> minister to come with a series of propositions by end of july, regarding
>> digital economy in France. I must point out that the very-short delay
>> for this plan is
>> 1) because our government was restructed recently (and for the first
>> time, digital economy was given to a specific minister, rather than
>> being nicely divided between minister of culture, of education, of
>> industry etc..., and
>> 2) because France will become president of Europe this summer, so
>> obviously want to be a leading force of proposition in various areas,
>> including internet considerations.
>>
>> Anyway, the Assises du Numerique are usually an opportunity for
>> *important* people (that is... politicians, industrial leaders, public
>> services) to discuss of the future of our country and come up with
>> propositions. Access is restricted.
>>
>> This year, they decided to have unrestricted access to the Assises, the
>> expand them to a collection of local Assises all accross the country, to
>> let completely open the number of propositions which can be done, AND to
>> open a wiki to either comment or tweak the current propositions, or to
>> make NEW propositions. Is not that amazing ?
>>
>> THe wiki was opened yesterday:
>> http://wiki.assisesdunumerique.fr/xwiki/bin/view/Assises/
>>
>> Poeple must log in to access the wiki, but creation of account is
>> totally opened. I tested it yesterday during the Assises. License is
>> cc-by 1.0.
>>
>> I hope the french editors will take direct action and be a force of
>> proposition. Otherwise, it would really mean that we should not complain
>> in the future if the laws and activity of the government does not please
>> us. We should only complain if they refuse our propositions ;-)
>>
>> More to come later on the topic. Just wanted to mention it was the first
>> time that my government was actually OPENING a place for us to work on
>> action points together.
>>
>> THIS is also thanks to us guys...
>>
>> Ant
>
> Very cool indeed. Just to continue on the theme of namedropping...
>
> Bessons opposite number in Finnish government
> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyrki_J._J._Kasvi ) is a very
> old friend of mine - when I say old, I mean "when people used
> to wear bell-bottoms" old.
>
> Though Kasvi isn't currently so well known for his technology &
> future related endevours, but as one of the prime movers in the
> scandal that is currently shaking the whole Finnish political
> system to its core, in regard to transparency of political
> funding.
>
> Though it is cool to add that my old friend has been very
> active in updating all the articles on Finnish Parliamentarians
> on The wikipedia.
>
> Yours,
>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:01:24 +0200
> From: Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Useability
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>> Florence Devouard wrote:
>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>>> Interesting. Reminds me of when we originally moved to
>>>> "monobook". There was a real but brief episode where
>>>> somebody using the nick "bgates" came into the channel
>>>> #wikipedia on Internet Relay Chat, and very swiftly
>>>> exited, after getting an answer that appeared to all
>>>> present to be a sincerely technical one...
>>>>
>>>> I confess I have ever since wondered was that the "real"
>>>> "bgates" or just somebody with a sense of humour, who
>>>> nevertheless was discomfited by our move to monobook.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>>
>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>>> Eh :-)
>>>
>>> Well, in this case, the guy was real :-)
>>> I met him at http://assisesdunumerique.fr/actualites/
>>>
>>> Nice opportunity by the way, to mention that last week, I met with
>>> various important people (at French scale), in the name of our prime
>>> minister (Fillon), the minister of education and research (Pecresse) and
>>> the secretary in charge of Innovation, digital economy and etc ... (Eric
>>> Besson).
>>>
>>> I had the very "blushing-experience" of being both cited by Fillon
>>> (once) and Besson (twice) in a public event. I actually met Besson 3
>>> times in two days, including a 7 members-2 hours breakfast at the
>>> minister, around digital economy considerations.
>>>
>>> One of the top (hot) topic is that Besson has been asked by the prime
>>> minister to come with a series of propositions by end of july, regarding
>>> digital economy in France. I must point out that the very-short delay
>>> for this plan is
>>> 1) because our government was restructed recently (and for the first
>>> time, digital economy was given to a specific minister, rather than
>>> being nicely divided between minister of culture, of education, of
>>> industry etc..., and
>>> 2) because France will become president of Europe this summer, so
>>> obviously want to be a leading force of proposition in various areas,
>>> including internet considerations.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the Assises du Numerique are usually an opportunity for
>>> *important* people (that is... politicians, industrial leaders, public
>>> services) to discuss of the future of our country and come up with
>>> propositions. Access is restricted.
>>>
>>> This year, they decided to have unrestricted access to the Assises, the
>>> expand them to a collection of local Assises all accross the country, to
>>> let completely open the number of propositions which can be done, AND to
>>> open a wiki to either comment or tweak the current propositions, or to
>>> make NEW propositions. Is not that amazing ?
>>>
>>> THe wiki was opened yesterday:
>>> http://wiki.assisesdunumerique.fr/xwiki/bin/view/Assises/
>>>
>>> Poeple must log in to access the wiki, but creation of account is
>>> totally opened. I tested it yesterday during the Assises. License is
>>> cc-by 1.0.
>>>
>>> I hope the french editors will take direct action and be a force of
>>> proposition. Otherwise, it would really mean that we should not complain
>>> in the future if the laws and activity of the government does not please
>>> us. We should only complain if they refuse our propositions ;-)
>>>
>>> More to come later on the topic. Just wanted to mention it was the first
>>> time that my government was actually OPENING a place for us to work on
>>> action points together.
>>>
>>> THIS is also thanks to us guys...
>>>
>>> Ant
>>
>> Very cool indeed. Just to continue on the theme of namedropping...
>>
>> Bessons opposite number in Finnish government
>> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyrki_J._J._Kasvi ) is a very
>> old friend of mine - when I say old, I mean "when people used
>> to wear bell-bottoms" old.
>
> Can you clarify the meaning of that delicate old-saying ?
>
>> Though Kasvi isn't currently so well known for his technology &
>> future related endevours, but as one of the prime movers in the
>> scandal that is currently shaking the whole Finnish political
>> system to its core, in regard to transparency of political
>> funding.
>
> What is this scandal about ? :-)
>
> Ant
>
>> Though it is cool to add that my old friend has been very
>> active in updating all the articles on Finnish Parliamentarians
>> on The wikipedia.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:34:05 +0300
> From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Useability
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <484218AD.7060105(a)gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Florence Devouard wrote:
>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>> Florence Devouard wrote:
>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>>>> Interesting. Reminds me of when we originally moved to
>>>>> "monobook". There was a real but brief episode where
>>>>> somebody using the nick "bgates" came into the channel
>>>>> #wikipedia on Internet Relay Chat, and very swiftly
>>>>> exited, after getting an answer that appeared to all
>>>>> present to be a sincerely technical one...
>>>>>
>>>>> I confess I have ever since wondered was that the "real"
>>>>> "bgates" or just somebody with a sense of humour, who
>>>>> nevertheless was discomfited by our move to monobook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>>>> Eh :-)
>>>>
>>>> Well, in this case, the guy was real :-)
>>>> I met him at http://assisesdunumerique.fr/actualites/
>>>>
>>>> Nice opportunity by the way, to mention that last week, I met with
>>>> various important people (at French scale), in the name of our prime
>>>> minister (Fillon), the minister of education and research (Pecresse)
>>>> and
>>>> the secretary in charge of Innovation, digital economy and etc ...
>>>> (Eric
>>>> Besson).
>>>>
>>>> I had the very "blushing-experience" of being both cited by Fillon
>>>> (once) and Besson (twice) in a public event. I actually met Besson 3
>>>> times in two days, including a 7 members-2 hours breakfast at the
>>>> minister, around digital economy considerations.
>>>>
>>>> One of the top (hot) topic is that Besson has been asked by the prime
>>>> minister to come with a series of propositions by end of july,
>>>> regarding
>>>> digital economy in France. I must point out that the very-short delay
>>>> for this plan is
>>>> 1) because our government was restructed recently (and for the first
>>>> time, digital economy was given to a specific minister, rather than
>>>> being nicely divided between minister of culture, of education, of
>>>> industry etc..., and
>>>> 2) because France will become president of Europe this summer, so
>>>> obviously want to be a leading force of proposition in various areas,
>>>> including internet considerations.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, the Assises du Numerique are usually an opportunity for
>>>> *important* people (that is... politicians, industrial leaders, public
>>>> services) to discuss of the future of our country and come up with
>>>> propositions. Access is restricted.
>>>>
>>>> This year, they decided to have unrestricted access to the Assises, the
>>>> expand them to a collection of local Assises all accross the country,
>>>> to
>>>> let completely open the number of propositions which can be done, AND
>>>> to
>>>> open a wiki to either comment or tweak the current propositions, or to
>>>> make NEW propositions. Is not that amazing ?
>>>>
>>>> THe wiki was opened yesterday:
>>>> http://wiki.assisesdunumerique.fr/xwiki/bin/view/Assises/
>>>>
>>>> Poeple must log in to access the wiki, but creation of account is
>>>> totally opened. I tested it yesterday during the Assises. License is
>>>> cc-by 1.0.
>>>>
>>>> I hope the french editors will take direct action and be a force of
>>>> proposition. Otherwise, it would really mean that we should not
>>>> complain
>>>> in the future if the laws and activity of the government does not
>>>> please
>>>> us. We should only complain if they refuse our propositions ;-)
>>>>
>>>> More to come later on the topic. Just wanted to mention it was the
>>>> first
>>>> time that my government was actually OPENING a place for us to work on
>>>> action points together.
>>>>
>>>> THIS is also thanks to us guys...
>>>>
>>>> Ant
>>> Very cool indeed. Just to continue on the theme of namedropping...
>>>
>>> Bessons opposite number in Finnish government
>>> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyrki_J._J._Kasvi ) is a very
>>> old friend of mine - when I say old, I mean "when people used
>>> to wear bell-bottoms" old.
>>
>> Can you clarify the meaning of that delicate old-saying ?
>
> In practical terms, I first met him at a science fiction
> convention in Sweden, in the 1980's (85 - 87 or thereabouts.
> He is a genuinely good guy who has made the international
> press through having his election campaign web pages include
> a klingon language version.
>
>>
>>> Though Kasvi isn't currently so well known for his technology &
>>> future related endevours, but as one of the prime movers in the
>>> scandal that is currently shaking the whole Finnish political
>>> system to its core, in regard to transparency of political
>>> funding.
>>
>> What is this scandal about ? :-)
>
> It seems there was an "accepted practise" whereby politicians
> would "finesse" a law they had themselves passed about publicity
> of conflict of interests, through disclosing only innocently
> named "shell associations" as their campaign financers, so as to
> avoid having to disclose the businessmens identity who were the
> real force behind those associations which had no other function
> than to be a nice name to disclose.
>
> This would have continued with very lax scrutiny, but for one
> politician refusing to name even the shell companys name, because
> he had assurances that though illegal, such non-disclosure would
> carry no punishment.
>
> The poor chap had entirely forgot the court of public opinion.
>
> :D
>
> As my friend J. J. Kasvi asked some very pointed questions
> about these kind of acts from a person who is supposed to pass
> the laws, the press have had a field day, exposing the
> money-men behind the curtains.
>
>>> Though it is cool to add that my old friend has been very
>>> active in updating all the articles on Finnish Parliamentarians
>>> on The wikipedia.
>
> yours
>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:42:18 -0400
> From: "Elias Friedman" <elipongo(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Useability
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> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
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>> Problem: on small screens, the search box is not visible and readers
>> must scroll each time they get to a new page to find it.
>> Whether we are happy with this, or would prefer that people navigate
>> three featured content or indexes or random article, does not change the
>> fact that most poeple actually use search system on internet.
>>
>> What about changing the search box place ?
>> Perhaps under the logo. Or below the Navigation block. Or fully at the
>> top of the page ?
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>> Ant <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l>
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> There's actually a discussion going on currently about this very
> issue/proposal at:
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Move_th…
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> or, if that link's too long for your email reader try:
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> http://tinyurl.com/48l3ww
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> Cheers!
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