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CherianTinu Abraham

4 Jul 2013 4 Jul '13

8:04 a.m.

Hi all, I am working on a personal Wikipedia project aimed at getting more images of Notable Indians into Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons. I am calling it "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" for now... ( I know that it is a very boring title.. But if you want to suggest better names, do help me :) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Improve_Indian_Biography_Ima… The strategy is to use your influences to persuade people to donate their images to Wikipedia/Creative Commons. The result , in my opinion, would be 1) Better images of Notable Indians & celebrities to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. 2) Improve the awareness of releasing the images to free licenses and Creative Commons. There are already two successes: Ashwin Sanghi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwin_Sanghi>, author — Persuaded to change licenses of the images on Flickr to CC by SA. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with Flickr Bot Amish Tripathi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Tripathi>, author — Released 4 images on CC by SA by email. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons . OTRS pending I am already in talks with several others. One of the my learning from this exercise is that, while the celebrity might hold the copyrights of the images technically , it is also important to get signed consent of the actual photographer for transfer of the rights, if you are going via the OTRS route.. If someone instructs or pays another to take his photo, who holds the copyright? the photographer or the subject? In legal terms, it is always the photographer who is the copyright owner. The photographer should transfer the copyright by a contract or written terms if the subject needs to have the copyright. In most cases, it sound stupid, but that's how the law is written. ( Thanks to User:Sreejithk2000 for this gyan) Thoughts? Regards Tinu Cherian User:Tinucherian

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Pavanaja U B

4 Jul 4 Jul

8:11 a.m.

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Good idea Tinu. I have many photos but mostly from literary worlds of Karnataka. I have already added some of them. Regards, Pavanaja From: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of CherianTinu Abraham Sent: 04 July 2013 17:34 To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.; wmin-members(a)googlegroups.com Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" Hi all, I am working on a personal Wikipedia project aimed at getting more images of Notable Indians into Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons. I am calling it "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" for now... ( I know that it is a very boring title.. But if you want to suggest better names, do help me :) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Improve_Indian_Biography_Imag es_Project The strategy is to use your influences to persuade people to donate their images to Wikipedia/Creative Commons. The result , in my opinion, would be 1) Better images of Notable Indians & celebrities to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. 2) Improve the awareness of releasing the images to free licenses and Creative Commons. There are already two successes: Ashwin Sanghi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwin_Sanghi> , author - Persuaded to change licenses of the images on Flickr to CC by SA. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with Flickr Bot Amish Tripathi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Tripathi> , author - Released 4 images on CC by SA by email. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons . OTRS pending I am already in talks with several others. One of the my learning from this exercise is that, while the celebrity might hold the copyrights of the images technically , it is also important to get signed consent of the actual photographer for transfer of the rights, if you are going via the OTRS route.. If someone instructs or pays another to take his photo, who holds the copyright? the photographer or the subject? In legal terms, it is always the photographer who is the copyright owner. The photographer should transfer the copyright by a contract or written terms if the subject needs to have the copyright. In most cases, it sound stupid, but that's how the law is written. ( Thanks to User:Sreejithk2000 for this gyan) Thoughts? Regards Tinu Cherian User:Tinucherian

Srikanth Ramakrishnan

8:17 a.m.

New subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"

Good initiative Tinu, I'll do my bit! On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Pavanaja U B <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com>wrote;wrote:

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Good idea Tinu. I have many photos but mostly from literary worlds of Karnataka. I have already added some of them.**** ** ** Regards,**** Pavanaja**** ** ** ** ** *From:* wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *CherianTinu Abraham *Sent:* 04 July 2013 17:34 *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.; wmin-members(a)googlegroups.com *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"*** * ** ** Hi all, I am working on a personal Wikipedia project aimed at getting more images of Notable Indians into Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons. I am calling it "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" for now... ( I know that it is a very boring title.. But if you want to suggest better names, do help me :) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Improve_Indian_Biography_Ima… The strategy is to use your influences to persuade people to donate their images to Wikipedia/Creative Commons. The result , in my opinion, would be 1) Better images of Notable Indians & celebrities to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. 2) Improve the awareness of releasing the images to free licenses and Creative Commons. There are already two successes: Ashwin Sanghi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwin_Sanghi>, author — Persuaded to change licenses of the images on Flickr to CC by SA. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with Flickr Bot Amish Tripathi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Tripathi>, author — Released 4 images on CC by SA by email. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons . OTRS pending I am already in talks with several others. One of the my learning from this exercise is that, while the celebrity might hold the copyrights of the images technically , it is also important to get signed consent of the actual photographer for transfer of the rights, if you are going via the OTRS route.. If someone instructs or pays another to take his photo, who holds the copyright? the photographer or the subject? In legal terms, it is always the photographer who is the copyright owner. The photographer should transfer the copyright by a contract or written terms if the subject needs to have the copyright. In most cases, it sound stupid, but that's how the law is written. ( Thanks to User:Sreejithk2000 for this gyan) Thoughts? Regards Tinu Cherian User:Tinucherian **** _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

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CherianTinu Abraham

8 Jul 8 Jul

2:36 a.m.

New subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"

Thanks Pavanaja & Srikanth. Meanwhile, I have renamed the project to "Incredible Indians" per suggestion by one of my friends. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Incredible_Indians Regards Tinu Cherian On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in> wrote:

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Good initiative Tinu, I'll do my bit! On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Pavanaja U B <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com>wrote;wrote:

Good idea Tinu. I have many photos but mostly from literary worlds of Karnataka. I have already added some of them.**** ** ** Regards,**** Pavanaja**** ** ** ** ** *From:* wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *CherianTinu Abraham *Sent:* 04 July 2013 17:34 *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.; wmin-members(a)googlegroups.com *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"** ** ** ** Hi all, I am working on a personal Wikipedia project aimed at getting more images of Notable Indians into Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons. I am calling it "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" for now... ( I know that it is a very boring title.. But if you want to suggest better names, do help me :) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Improve_Indian_Biography_Ima… The strategy is to use your influences to persuade people to donate their images to Wikipedia/Creative Commons. The result , in my opinion, would be 1) Better images of Notable Indians & celebrities to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. 2) Improve the awareness of releasing the images to free licenses and Creative Commons. There are already two successes: Ashwin Sanghi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwin_Sanghi>, author — Persuaded to change licenses of the images on Flickr to CC by SA. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with Flickr Bot Amish Tripathi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Tripathi>, author — Released 4 images on CC by SA by email. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons . OTRS pending I am already in talks with several others. One of the my learning from this exercise is that, while the celebrity might hold the copyrights of the images technically , it is also important to get signed consent of the actual photographer for transfer of the rights, if you are going via the OTRS route.. If someone instructs or pays another to take his photo, who holds the copyright? the photographer or the subject? In legal terms, it is always the photographer who is the copyright owner. The photographer should transfer the copyright by a contract or written terms if the subject needs to have the copyright. In most cases, it sound stupid, but that's how the law is written. ( Thanks to User:Sreejithk2000 for this gyan) Thoughts? Regards Tinu Cherian User:Tinucherian **** _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

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Pavanaja U B

2:49 a.m.

New subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"

Tinu, Do you want the images to be sent to you only? That's what your page says. What if I upload them to commons? I already have some in commons. Regards, Pavanaja From: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of CherianTinu Abraham Sent: 08 July 2013 12:06 To: Wikimedia India Community list Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" Thanks Pavanaja & Srikanth. Meanwhile, I have renamed the project to "Incredible Indians" per suggestion by one of my friends. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Incredible_Indians Regards Tinu Cherian On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in> wrote: Good initiative Tinu, I'll do my bit! On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Pavanaja U B <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com> wrote: Good idea Tinu. I have many photos but mostly from literary worlds of Karnataka. I have already added some of them. Regards, Pavanaja From: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of CherianTinu Abraham Sent: 04 July 2013 17:34 To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.; wmin-members(a)googlegroups.com Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" Hi all, I am working on a personal Wikipedia project aimed at getting more images of Notable Indians into Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons. I am calling it "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" for now... ( I know that it is a very boring title.. But if you want to suggest better names, do help me :) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Improve_Indian_Biography_Imag es_Project The strategy is to use your influences to persuade people to donate their images to Wikipedia/Creative Commons. The result , in my opinion, would be 1) Better images of Notable Indians & celebrities to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. 2) Improve the awareness of releasing the images to free licenses and Creative Commons. There are already two successes: Ashwin Sanghi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwin_Sanghi> , author - Persuaded to change licenses of the images on Flickr to CC by SA. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with Flickr Bot Amish Tripathi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Tripathi> , author - Released 4 images on CC by SA by email. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons . OTRS pending I am already in talks with several others. One of the my learning from this exercise is that, while the celebrity might hold the copyrights of the images technically , it is also important to get signed consent of the actual photographer for transfer of the rights, if you are going via the OTRS route.. If someone instructs or pays another to take his photo, who holds the copyright? the photographer or the subject? In legal terms, it is always the photographer who is the copyright owner. The photographer should transfer the copyright by a contract or written terms if the subject needs to have the copyright. In most cases, it sound stupid, but that's how the law is written. ( Thanks to User:Sreejithk2000 for this gyan) Thoughts? Regards Tinu Cherian User:Tinucherian _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations> _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

CherianTinu Abraham

10:58 p.m.

New subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"

This is just a personal project as of now and just an example/experimental. Other Wikipedians can directly upload to Commons or go via the OTRS route as needed. The project & page is just an interface to notable people that I can trying to reach for their photos. If there are sufficient interest and work from other Wikipedians too, we can move this under WikiProject:India in the future. -Tinu Cherian On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Pavanaja U B <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com>wrote;wrote:

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Tinu,**** ** ** Do you want the images to be sent to you only? That’s what your page says. What if I upload them to commons? I already have some in commons. **** ** ** Regards,**** Pavanaja**** ** ** ** ** *From:* wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *CherianTinu Abraham *Sent:* 08 July 2013 12:06 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"**** ** ** Thanks Pavanaja & Srikanth. Meanwhile, I have renamed the project to "Incredible Indians" per suggestion by one of my friends. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Incredible_Indians Regards Tinu Cherian**** On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in> wrote:**** Good initiative Tinu, **** I'll do my bit!**** ** ** On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Pavanaja U B <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com> wrote:**** Good idea Tinu. I have many photos but mostly from literary worlds of Karnataka. I have already added some of them.**** **** Regards,**** Pavanaja**** **** **** *From:* wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaindia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *CherianTinu Abraham *Sent:* 04 July 2013 17:34 *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.; wmin-members(a)googlegroups.com *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] "Improve Indian Biography Images Project"*** * **** Hi all, I am working on a personal Wikipedia project aimed at getting more images of Notable Indians into Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons. I am calling it "Improve Indian Biography Images Project" for now... ( I know that it is a very boring title.. But if you want to suggest better names, do help me :) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tinucherian/Improve_Indian_Biography_Ima… The strategy is to use your influences to persuade people to donate their images to Wikipedia/Creative Commons. The result , in my opinion, would be 1) Better images of Notable Indians & celebrities to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. 2) Improve the awareness of releasing the images to free licenses and Creative Commons. There are already two successes: Ashwin Sanghi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwin_Sanghi>, author — Persuaded to change licenses of the images on Flickr to CC by SA. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with Flickr Bot Amish Tripathi <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Tripathi>, author — Released 4 images on CC by SA by email. Uploaded to Wikimedia Commons . OTRS pending I am already in talks with several others. One of the my learning from this exercise is that, while the celebrity might hold the copyrights of the images technically , it is also important to get signed consent of the actual photographer for transfer of the rights, if you are going via the OTRS route.. If someone instructs or pays another to take his photo, who holds the copyright? the photographer or the subject? In legal terms, it is always the photographer who is the copyright owner. The photographer should transfer the copyright by a contract or written terms if the subject needs to have the copyright. In most cases, it sound stupid, but that's how the law is written. ( Thanks to User:Sreejithk2000 for this gyan) Thoughts? Regards Tinu Cherian User:Tinucherian **** ** ** _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l**** **** ** ** -- **** Srikanth Ramakrishnan**** Treasurer,**** Wikimedia Chapter [India]**** ** ** Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations> **** _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l**** ** ** _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

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