Can the moderator stop the thread.. having such a public negotiation is not good.
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From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in>
To: India public list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Re: Few concerns
Hi,
The EC has decided to have a conference call tomorrow night to discuss the matter.
WE shall keep you updated on the same.
Sent from the touchscreen equivalent of a Nokia 1100, pardon the sender.
--
Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
Treasurer.
On Sep 25, 2013 4:57 PM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" <viswaprabha(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear all,
To set right the facts straight, please let me explicitly state the following for the
information of you all:
1.
I have been using internet and e-mail systems since 1994-1995. Since then until
now, not even once, I have used the freedom to send a mail to any person or lists in a way
not disclosing my singular and true identity.
2. I
have not sent any mails to this or any other lists as 'Zakas' or
whatever names. Usually I send very few and only absolutely necessary mails to
Wikimedia lists (except perhaps for ml-community). Even after becoming
an EC member, I have always restrained to limit my mails as we have
assigned specific EC members for public relations and communications.
That is, I deem that shouldering the responsibility of an EC member, one
is further constrained to write (even personal) mails to the lists as
much as one would like to.
3. Abiding the standard code of
conduct to its fullest meaning, I have not
communicated, disclosed or discussed any such matters that
should be dealt within or by the EC under the purview of its collective
responsibility to any undue third parties. I have also not prompted
anyone else either to act on his own or as a proxy to carry out any missions.
I must also state it clear and loud that,
as a person, I have no monitory, social
or political interests that
conflict with my assumed responsibilities within the EC or chapter. In
being or serving as a chapter member (or as its extended functionary),
my sole aim is to upkeep the mission and motto of Wikipedia and to
effectively utilize the opportunities and resources it allows and
provides for the betterment of the community. Therefore, I DO NOT NEED TO ENGAGE IN ANY
CLANDESTINE OR UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES WHILE BEING AN EC MEMBER OR CHAPTER MEMBER!
Please allow me to write these rather silly lines more on a list which I always consider
serious and subject-worthy. My apologies for the same in advance.
Dear Pradeep,
Is just withdrawing an accusation of that degree enough?
I STRONGLY DEMAND AN OUTRIGHT APOLOGY FROM YOU, THROUGH THIS VERY MAILING LIST, as this
could heavily damage my reputation and stature henceforth both at a personal capacity as
well as a responsible member of the
current WMIN EC.
I must also remind you that either your
criminology and cyber-investigation lessons
were quite bad, or your
'teachers' were quite unprepared. Or perhaps, you did not carry out your overnight
homework exercises carefully.
It is quite funny how you could have arrived such laughable conclusions considering the
following reasons:
1. Do I really call 'Moksh' as 'Moksha'? I don't think so. Did SOMEONE
ELSE tell you so? Then, could it be that you were taken for a ride by those someone else?
2. Now, if someone else did not tell this (non-fact), how did you come to
know of
such a peculiar 'disorder' that I seem to have? Did we even talk to each other
after a face-to-face (and very friendly) meet on 3rd of
May 2012 (at Kerala Sahitya Academy compound, Thrissur)? Have we even
ever spoke through phone or any other voice channels (or even mails)?
Except for 3rd May 2012, Do I even know you personally? And then, did I even knew a person
called 'Moksh' (or 'Moksha'), worthy of a subject of interest until the
recent elections (or at the least, until I actually got involved with the chapter
business last October)?
3. The next possibility is that I could have possibly written his name as 'Moksha'
somewhere in a mail list or wiki page. Can you EVER SHOW ANY PAGE OR EVEN PRIVATE MAIL
where I have used the term 'Moksha'?
So, having done a serious wrong, I demand you to immediately offer your
apologies
(to me as well as the list for having misled them,) right through this mailing list!
With the above statements and demand,
I remain.
-Viswanathan Prabhakaran
(User:Viswaprabha)
Member,
Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India Chapter.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <prad2609(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
I seem to have sent it to Viswa alone. Resenting.
Pradeep
Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
________________________________
From: Pradeep Mohandas <prad2609(a)yahoo.com>om>;
To: viswaprabha(a)gmail.com <viswaprabha(a)gmail.com>om>;
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
Sent: Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:44:01 AM
Hi Vishwa,
I am happy that this is now publicly recorded. I withdraw my accusation forthwith.
I would also like to step down from the position of the GLAM SIG chair forthwith. I am
happy to help in GLAM related activities where ever needed. I think others will do more
justice to this position as I have been able to.
In addition, I have found out now that my employee, State Bank of India, with which the
Chapter maintains a bank account does not allow me to hold this position as a point of
conflict of interest. I am not allowed to be on the Executive or head committees within a
non profit which has a relationship with the Bank.
Warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas
Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
________________________________
From: ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <viswaprabha(a)gmail.com>om>;
To: Pradeep Mohandas <prad2609(a)yahoo.com>om>; Wikimedia India Community list
<wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>;
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
Sent: Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:12:21 AM
Did I read and understand that absolutely correctly!
If so, this is a huge accusal!
Please come to your senses before doing such horrendous accusations!
I would never (or am or will be planning) to send any mail messages to ANY public (or
private) lists other than from my own proven identities!!! TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!
Indeed, your baseless and mean assumption calls for severe actions!
-Viswam
User:Viswaprabha
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <prad2609(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
hi,
this is with reference to this email
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http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-September/010415…, sent
by "Zakaas Zakaas". the text of the email was scrubbed as HTML. The content of
the text is here
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http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20130915/… reproduced
below:
"While the new ECs are still deciding the new office bearers, there are some observations which are of serious concern. It is known fact that Karthik(secratory) is employee of Moksha(president) and Pranav is employee/consultant to Moksha</p>In the true spirit of wikipedia, where transparancy is atmost important, and conflict of interests are taken seriously, have these<br />people given any disclaimer about this information (employee, employer relationship) in advancIt will be nice to know the concern people stand regarding this matter.
It is interesting to note that while the author asks for transparency, he is not
transparent himself. Let us assume that the alias is taken for the sake of revealing this
"truth". Unfortunately, just using the alias is insufficient, in my opinion. One
must also be able to mask one's partiality to the language one uses for the mask to be
complete.
In this case, I can easily identify the author as Viswaprabha. He's the only person I
know of who calls Moksh Moksha.
Pradeep Mohandas
How Pradeep uses email? -
http://goo.gl/6v1I9
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