i just recieved the digest and it mostly contains only replies to the issues i raised.
most of my mails are missing. or is there a glitch?
Basavaraj N Itnal
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> 1. Re: Is it morally right for govts to
> support sanskrit
> wikipedia? (Gautam John)
> 2. Re: Is it morally right for govts to
> support sanskrit
> wikipedia? (Srikanth Ramakrishnan)
> 3. Re: Is it morally right for govts to
> support sanskrit
> wikipedia? (Gautam John)
> 4. Re: Is it morally right for govts to
> support sanskrit
> wikipedia? (Prateek Ramachandra)
> 5. Re: Is it morally right for govts to
> support sanskrit
> wikipedia? (Swaroop Rao)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:36:56 +0530
> From: Gautam John <gautam(a)prathambooks.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is it morally right for
> govts to
> support sanskrit wikipedia?
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> Hi Basavaraj (and welcome to the list!):
>
> Arguendo, that Sanskti is socially irrelevant, why should a
> Wikipedia
> in that language not exist by force of action given that
> one already
> exists and is active? Would that not be a morally egregious
> position -
> to state that it should *not* exist? In my humble view,
> there is a big
> difference between forcefully shutting something that is
> active down
> and in not encouraging activity on something that is
> dormant.
>
> Also, Wikipedia in any language is not a body of work about
> that
> language but an encyclopedia in that language - the two
> aren't really
> analogous.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
>
http://social.prathambooks.org/
>
>
>
> On 26 February 2011 16:31, Basavaraj Itnal <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > some reading on brahmanical tyranny,?lack of social
> relevence of sanskrit?and related topics
> >
> >
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=Be3PCvzf-BYC&pg=PA286&lpg=PA286&…
> >
> >
http://www.ambedkar.org/brahmanism/Brahmins_were_benefited_by_Muslim_Conque…
> >
> >
> >
http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/sanskrit_exposure.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Basavaraj N Itnal
> >
> > --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Arun Ramarathnam <arunram25(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Arun Ramarathnam <arunram25(a)gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is it morally right
> for govts to support sanskrit wikipedia?
> > To: "Wikimedia India Community list"
<wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Cc: "Basavaraj Itnal" <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
> > Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 10:36 AM
> >
> > Basavaraj,
> > First of all, welcome to the mailing list and thanks
> for you interest in wikipedia.
> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Basavaraj Itnal
> <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > 1. Till the Britsh Raj, Brahmins kept a large part of
> Indian society out of bounds from knowledge which was in
> Sanskrit. They had provisions to pour molten lead into the
> ears of non-brahmins (including all women) who even heard a
> word of sanskrit. knowledge contained in that language is
> now available in English and Sanskrit only symbolises
> tyranny. Do we need Wikipedia in Sanskrit with the support
> of govt funding?
> >
> > On you question on government support for a specific
> language, it would be inappropriate for anyone to comment on
> behalf of government action. They (govt) are probably best
> positioned to respond to that query.
> > As a far support for wikipedia or wikipedia is
> concerned, given there is a lot of volunteer work to be
> done, support from any quarters is welcome - individuals or
> organisations is welcome.
> > The intention of this list is to connect wikipedians
> and those interested in wikipedia.
> > Wikipedia seeks to collate the sum total off all
> knowledge and make it available for all to use freely. That
> includes as many languages as possible including Sanskrit
> and Pali.
> > We should also bear in mind the following as well;
> > - The eight schedule of the Indian constitution lists
> Sanskrit as one of the 22 languages [1]
> > - Sanskrit is also the official language of one of the
> states of India - Uttarkhand. [2]
> >
> >
> > 2. Why cannt we have a wikepedia in Pali as well, the
> language which was used by Budha and which can give us an
> alternate view on life to that of vedic view?
> >
> >
> > This has been answered by others on the list. You are
> welcome to contribute to Pali or any other language of your
> choice / interest on wikipedia.Volunteer content
> contributions are most welcome.
> > [
1]?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_languages_of_India
> > [
2]?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttarkhand
> > best regards
> > Arun
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:40:43 +0530
> From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is it morally right for
> govts to
> support sanskrit wikipedia?
> To: Wikimedia India Community list
> <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> What does, sanskirt wikipedia have to do with social class
> and caste system
> and what not?
> Regards,
> Srikanth
>
> On 26 February 2011 16:36, Gautam John <gautam(a)prathambooks.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Basavaraj (and welcome to the list!):
> >
> > Arguendo, that Sanskti is socially irrelevant, why
> should a Wikipedia
> > in that language not exist by force of action given
> that one already
> > exists and is active? Would that not be a morally
> egregious position -
> > to state that it should *not* exist? In my humble
> view, there is a big
> > difference between forcefully shutting something that
> is active down
> > and in not encouraging activity on something that is
> dormant.
> >
> > Also, Wikipedia in any language is not a body of work
> about that
> > language but an encyclopedia in that language - the
> two aren't really
> > analogous.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Gautam
> > ________
> >
http://social.prathambooks.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26 February 2011 16:31, Basavaraj Itnal <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > some reading on brahmanical tyranny, lack of
> social relevence of
> > sanskrit and related topics
> > >
> > >
> >
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=Be3PCvzf-BYC&pg=PA286&lpg=PA286&…
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.ambedkar.org/brahmanism/Brahmins_were_benefited_by_Muslim_Conque…
> > >
> > >
> > >
http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/sanskrit_exposure.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Basavaraj N Itnal
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Arun Ramarathnam <arunram25(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Arun Ramarathnam <arunram25(a)gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is it morally
> right for govts to support
> > sanskrit wikipedia?
> > > To: "Wikimedia India Community list" <
> > wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> > > Cc: "Basavaraj Itnal" <basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 10:36 AM
> > >
> > > Basavaraj,
> > > First of all, welcome to the mailing list and
> thanks for you interest in
> > wikipedia.
> > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Basavaraj Itnal
> <
> > basavarajitnal(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 1. Till the Britsh Raj, Brahmins kept a large
> part of Indian society out
> > of bounds from knowledge which was in Sanskrit. They
> had provisions to pour
> > molten lead into the ears of non-brahmins (including
> all women) who even
> > heard a word of sanskrit. knowledge contained in that
> language is now
> > available in English and Sanskrit only symbolises
> tyranny. Do we need
> > Wikipedia in Sanskrit with the support of govt
> funding?
> > >
> > > On you question on government support for a
> specific language, it would
> > be inappropriate for anyone to comment on behalf of
> government action. They
> > (govt) are probably best positioned to respond to that
> query.
> > > As a far support for wikipedia or wikipedia is
> concerned, given there is
> > a lot of volunteer work to be done, support from any
> quarters is welcome -
> > individuals or organisations is welcome.
> > > The intention of this list is to connect
> wikipedians and those interested
> > in wikipedia.
> > > Wikipedia seeks to collate the sum total off all
> knowledge and make it
> > available for all to use freely. That includes as many
> languages as possible
> > including Sanskrit and Pali.
> > > We should also bear in mind the following as
> well;
> > > - The eight schedule of the Indian constitution
> lists Sanskrit as one of
> > the 22 languages [1]
> > > - Sanskrit is also the official language of one
> of the states of India -
> > Uttarkhand. [2]
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. Why cannt we have a wikepedia in Pali as well,
> the language which was
> > used by Budha and which can give us an alternate view
> on life to that of
> > vedic view?
> > >
> > >
> > > This has been answered by others on the list. You
> are welcome to
> > contribute to Pali or any other language of your
> choice / interest on
> > wikipedia.Volunteer content contributions are most
> welcome.
> > > [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_languages_of_India
> > > [2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttarkhand
> > > best regards
> > > Arun
> > >
> > >
> > >
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