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Amir Sarabadani

17 Sep 2023 17 Sep '23

8:30 p.m.

Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: - For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. - For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) - For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) - and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I personally find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him)

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Bukola James

17 Sep 17 Sep

9:27 p.m.

Thank you so much Amir, this is super useful for the WikiClimateCampus Tour Campaign to help find list of articles related to climate and sustainability that participants can translate into their local languages in Nigeria. Bukola James <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bukky658> Community Coordinator, Code for Africa <http://codeforafrica.org/> (Knowledge Team/ WiRs Initiatives) On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 21:31, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Oby Ezeilo

10:06 p.m.

Thank you Amir On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 10:28 PM Bukola James <bukolajames2017(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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James Heilman

10:57 p.m.

Very nice Amir. We have built a somewhat similar tool specifically to help guide translation of healthcare related content https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/index.php Some of the additional functionality is that it integrates with the content translation tool, automatically collects data around the number of translations completed to create a leaderboard, and fixes / makes a bunch of minor adjustments after the translation is done. Our tool is based on categories, rather than an entire Wikiproject, as we wanted the ability to manually determine which articles are on the English side of the list. This allows us to make sure the English content is of high quality before it is proposed for translation. Best James On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 3:31 AM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I personally find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

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Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga

11:24 p.m.

Really good and useful, Amir. In the last years we have developed some similar tools, and the problem I see is about discoverability. How could we make this kind of tools extremely easy to find, and not something external that you must search for? Personally, I think that the user menu could be a great place to have these kinds of tools which make finding topics to edit easier. While I can't find a perfect solution, it would be great to know if the product team is thinking on a way to integrate the miriad of tools. Thanks again for the tool Galder ________________________________ From: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 12:57 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Tool to find articles to create or improve in non-English Wikipedias Very nice Amir. We have built a somewhat similar tool specifically to help guide translation of healthcare related content https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/index.php Some of the additional functionality is that it integrates with the content translation tool, automatically collects data around the number of translations completed to create a leaderboard, and fixes / makes a bunch of minor adjustments after the translation is done. Our tool is based on categories, rather than an entire Wikiproject, as we wanted the ability to manually determine which articles are on the English side of the list. This allows us to make sure the English content is of high quality before it is proposed for translation. Best James On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 3:31 AM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I personally find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

Ndahiro Derrick Alter

18 Sep 18 Sep

12:23 a.m.

Thanks a lot, Amir, The tool is so important, In fact, I am now using it to find and create articles on English Wikipedia related to Gender Studies which are missing on Kinyarwanda Wikipedia. Best regards On Mon, 18 Sept 2023 at 01:24, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

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Really good and useful, Amir. In the last years we have developed some similar tools, and the problem I see is about discoverability. How could we make this kind of tools extremely easy to find, and not something external that you must search for? Personally, I think that the user menu could be a great place to have these kinds of tools which make finding topics to edit easier. While I can't find a perfect solution, it would be great to know if the product team is thinking on a way to integrate the miriad of tools. Thanks again for the tool Galder ------------------------------ *From:* James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, September 18, 2023 12:57 AM *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Tool to find articles to create or improve in non-English Wikipedias Very nice Amir. We have built a somewhat similar tool specifically to help guide translation of healthcare related content https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/index.php Some of the additional functionality is that it integrates with the content translation tool, automatically collects data around the number of translations completed to create a leaderboard, and fixes / makes a bunch of minor adjustments after the translation is done. Our tool is based on categories, rather than an entire Wikiproject, as we wanted the ability to manually determine which articles are on the English side of the list. This allows us to make sure the English content is of high quality before it is proposed for translation. Best James On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 3:31 AM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or

create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc…

(I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to

bring this up that would be more fitting.)

This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of

a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language.

For example: For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2]

saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes.

For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying

article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve)

For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you

get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science)

and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what

articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing.

I personally find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer

asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics.

Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia,

the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you.

If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it,

please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become.

[1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]:

https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo…

[5]

https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import…

[6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7]

https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc…

[8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines

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James Heilman

1:49 a.m.

Would be useful to have a link to these tools from the Content Translation tool IMO. J On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 7:24 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter <ndahiroderric(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I personally find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

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F. Xavier Dengra i Grau

6:46 a.m.

Thank you very much, Amir! I would like to know whether translations will be open in Translatewiki to make it available and helpful for non-English speakers? I would gladly translate it to a couple other languages! I also agree on the views from Galder regarding the current non-existing noticeability of all these tools for most wikipedians. Salutacions/Kind regards Xavier Dengra El dg, 17 set., 2023 a 22:30, Amir Sarabadani <[ladsgroup@gmail.com](mailto:El dg, 17 set., 2023 a 22:30, Amir Sarabadani <<a href=)> va escriure:

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Olushola Olaniyan

7:35 a.m.

Thank you, Amir. This tool comes in handy and will be very helpful for the communities preparing for edit-a+thon. Thanks a lot for this information. Cheers. On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 9:31 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: - For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. - For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) - For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) - and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

Anupam Dutta

11:51 a.m.

Dear All, The idea is a great one. But one major drawback is the drop-down menu.... With the list of articles getting fixed, many articles will be left out.... So there should be the option of writing the name of the article instead of selection. While another option must be added to choose the "most important articles" of the region. Regards *Anupamdutta73Kolkata India* On Mon, 18 Sept 2023 at 13:35, Olushola Olaniyan <olaniyanshola15(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: - For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. - For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) - For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) - and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

Alex Stinson

4:02 p.m.

Hi Anupamdutta73 and everyone, That's a great question, there are a lot of ways you could arrive at such a list: below I share a two part series of trainings that we ran as part of WikiForHumanRights and more work on the Campaign Programs team at the Foundation. In part 1, I look at simple tools similar to the one created by Amir: I hope that you check out the video <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiForHumanRights_2023_session_on_Tools_for_Finding_the_Right_Articles_Recording_in_English.webm> or slide deck <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiForHumanRights_English_Slide_Deck_for_Tools_for_Finding_the_Right_Articles.pdf> . In particular, I want to highlight a tool from the Wikimedia Research Team that suggests "related articles" based on three different language agnostic models <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Language-Agnostic_Topic_Classification> (similar links, similar words, and similar and read in similar reader sessions <https://wikinav.toolforge.org/>) : https://list-building.toolforge.org/ -- you can use this tool to find "similar" in the articles from the topic area, in order to create your own WikiProject of sorts. For example, if I am interested in working in something related to a topic without a WikiProject (let's say Sustainable Agriculture), this would be the query <https://list-building.toolforge.org/?lang=en&title=Sustainable_agriculture&k-results=100>, that could then be shared in a list format on Pagepile <https://pagepile.toolforge.org/api.php?action=get_data&id=51842> or Petscan <https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?pagepile=51842> . You could then take this list, and prioritize by criteria like Amir highlights (i.e. interwikilinks) or Pageviews (see on Massviews <https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?source=pagepile&target=51842>), or any of the various flexibility you have with Petscan like article size. The tool can be started with either Wikidata or a Wikipedia article in any language. In part 2 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiForHumanRights_2023_Capacity_Building_on_Building_Article_List_with_Petscan.webm>, I highlight Petscan. Petscan has historically been the tool for discovering "related" topics, but is slightly harder to use than these simpler tools, you should definitely check out the training <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiForHumanRights_2023_Capacity_Building_on_Building_Article_List_with_Petscan.webm> or slide deck <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_Brief_(or_not_so_brief)_introduction_to_Petscan.pdf>. I am in the process of turning that training into something more flexible and useful than a 2 hour video. The challenge with Petscan is that it relies on previous human curation (categories and Wikidata), which means that if you are approaching a new topic, sometimes you can't get very good suggestions or it inherits the biases of previous editors. Cheers, Alex On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:51 AM Anupam Dutta <anupamdutta73(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, TLDR: There is now a tool that gives you list of articles to improve or create based on WikiProjects of English Wikipedia. For example, articles of top importance in WikiProject Mathematics that are missing or short in Azeri Wikipedia: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=az&topic=Mathematics&importanc… (I'm sorry for spamming your mailboxes, but I couldn't find a place to bring this up that would be more fitting.) This tool basically gets the list of articles of a given wikiproject of a given importance and tells you which ones are missing are below 10K bytes in the given target language. For example: - For WikiProject Physics and target of Hungarian Wikipedia, you get [2] saying article of Speed is missing while existing in 79 wikis and article of Molekulapálya [3] is the shortest article of this importance with ~700 bytes. - For Wikiproject Poland and target of Dutch Wikipedia, you get [1] saying article of "Ignacy Mościcki" is missing in Dutch Wikipedia while existing in 38 other languages (and many more articles to create or improve) - For Wikiproject Computer Science and target of Vietnamese Wikipedia, you get [4] saying article of "Alonzo Church" exists in 50 wikipedias but not in Vietnamese Wikipedia (and more articles to create or improve in field of computer science) - and many more but you get the idea. It is not perfect, for example the concept of importance and what articles belong to them is not perfect but it's better than nothing. I find this useful in events and editathons where a newcomer asks "I'm interested in topic X what can I do?" and you can give them at least something to work on. Or for small or medium wikis to find gaps in their content in given topics. Noting that there are more than 2,800 WikiProjects in English Wikipedia, the topics to pick are quite broad. From Olivia Roderigo [5] to Rome [6] to Soap Operas [7] to Trains [8]. Hope that'd be useful for you. If anyone is feeling comfortable to help maintain or add features to it, please let me know. I wrote this in four or five hours, it's quite basic and more of a PoC of what it could become. [1] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=nl&topic=Poland&importance=Top [2] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=hu&topic=Physics&importance=Top [3] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molekulap%C3%A1lya [4]: https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=vi&topic=Computer+science&impo… [5] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Olivia+Rodrigo&import… [6] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Rome&importance=Top [7] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Soap+Operas&importanc… [8] https://whattodo.toolforge.org/?lang=fa&topic=Trains&importance=Top Best -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

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Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga

5:05 p.m.

Johan Jönsson

5:43 p.m.

Den mån 18 sep. 2023 kl 19:06 skrev Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158(a)hotmail.com>gt;:

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We are in the same point, Alex. From time to time, someone develops a tool to make something with similar goals. But this tools are dispersed. How could the Product Team think in a way to gather and join all if this useful tools so we can find them onsite?

Toolhub has a "lists" function: https://toolhub.wikimedia.org/published-lists Maybe that's the best way to keep track of similar tools, or tools for similar situations? Best, //Johan Jönsson --

Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga

5:47 p.m.

Asaf Bartov

19 Sep 19 Sep

5:13 p.m.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:49 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

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Toolhub is still something external! Let me introduce the point: the Research team has been working in great tools to help with editing. They made an exciting showcase in Wikimania. None of them are reachable while editing. We are here in the same case: the translate tool could accomodate a suggestion button that feeds from the varied tools we have.

I agree. To me it has always seemed odd that Mediawiki's *core interface* has no large friendly button called "Tools". It could lead by default to project-space:Tools, i.e. to Wikipedia:Tools on Wikipedia. From then on, it's up to the community to curate the page usefully, probably including explaining about Toolforge and directing to its various directory meta-tools. But it's that first *invitation* and *discoverability* of the very notion of tools that's missing, for even some experienced editors. If some people agree, perhaps they'd be interested in starting a discussion on Mediawiki.org making the case for it, addressing the (inevitable) objections people may have, discussing the design and location of the button, etc. I don't know if the Foundation's Product team has thoughts about this, but even if it is not currently on any team's roadmap, it can be useful to work out a proposal with broad community support for how it could be done. The actual implementation would be technically simple, and mostly a question of the skin design: location, spacing, mobile, etc. A.

Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga

5:21 p.m.

Vector2022 has, actually, a place called Tools. It comes in the edit menu, just below the language switcher. The problem is that... most of them are not tools. Indeed, the Design Team decided to bury the sister projects inside the tools menu. So, yes, we do have a place called tools, where actual tools could be located. ________________________________ From: Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:13 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Tool to find articles to create or improve in non-English Wikipedias On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:49 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158@hotmail.com<mailto:galder158@hotmail.com>> wrote: Toolhub is still something external! Let me introduce the point: the Research team has been working in great tools to help with editing. They made an exciting showcase in Wikimania. None of them are reachable while editing. We are here in the same case: the translate tool could accomodate a suggestion button that feeds from the varied tools we have. I agree. To me it has always seemed odd that Mediawiki's *core interface* has no large friendly button called "Tools". It could lead by default to project-space:Tools, i.e. to Wikipedia:Tools on Wikipedia. From then on, it's up to the community to curate the page usefully, probably including explaining about Toolforge and directing to its various directory meta-tools. But it's that first *invitation* and *discoverability* of the very notion of tools that's missing, for even some experienced editors. If some people agree, perhaps they'd be interested in starting a discussion on Mediawiki.org making the case for it, addressing the (inevitable) objections people may have, discussing the design and location of the button, etc. I don't know if the Foundation's Product team has thoughts about this, but even if it is not currently on any team's roadmap, it can be useful to work out a proposal with broad community support for how it could be done. The actual implementation would be technically simple, and mostly a question of the skin design: location, spacing, mobile, etc. A.

Amir Sarabadani

20 Sep 20 Sep

1:16 p.m.

Regarding discoverability. I think there is a bigger problem: We have an issue of discoverability of work for Wikipedians. I remember in my first days as a Wikipedian, I would go to the main page and then click on random pages until I would find something to improve. A friend of mine in his early days was clicking on Special:Random in English Wikipedia and translating the results to Persian (wasting energy that could have gone to translating more important articles.) I dream of a day that I could have only one personalized dashboard page (linked at the top of every page next to my user page) which would have boxes with stuff like: - Recentchanges: Unpatrolled edits, live - New files uploaded to be reviewed - Articles to improve or create in the topic I set (basically my tool) - Articles in topics I set that need attention (clean up tags, etc.) - Links to places I find useful: WP:ANI, WP:SPI, etc. - Random small clean ups suggested: e.g. a feed of possible spelling issues or typos to check or fix. - A personalized todo list I could add personal notes - Events that might be happening around me And of course each user could customize to their needs, some contributors prefer patrolling, some prefer copy-editing, some prefer content improvements. We could add some fancy graphs for positive reinforcement. It can also have tabs for "my dashboard", "recommended dashboard for patrolling", etc. Sorta like bloomberg terminals even. One symptom of the lack of such a page is that many users use their own userpage as a partial replacement for a dashboard and their user page has become a list of links. It's not even that hard to implement (at least a basic version of it). A tech-savvy Wikipedian could potentially make this via a gadget, taking advantage of Special:BlankPage and some user json pages to hold the preferences (similar to Twinkle) Thankfully, Growth features added this dashboard for newcomers, but I want it to be expanded to old-timers too (and tailored and customized of course). I know there is also Special:Contribute <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contribute> being thought too and that can is also similar to what I have in mind (even the design is similar) Sorry for the brain dump! Am Di., 19. Sept. 2023 um 19:22 Uhr schrieb Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158(a)hotmail.com>gt;:

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Vector2022 has, actually, a place called Tools. It comes in the edit menu, just below the language switcher. The problem is that... most of them are not tools. Indeed, the Design Team decided to bury the sister projects inside the tools menu. So, yes, we do have a place called tools, where actual tools could be located. ------------------------------ *From:* Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov(a)gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:13 PM *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Tool to find articles to create or improve in non-English Wikipedias On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:49 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Toolhub is still something external! Let me introduce the point: the Research team has been working in great tools to help with editing. They made an exciting showcase in Wikimania. None of them are reachable while editing. We are here in the same case: the translate tool could accomodate a suggestion button that feeds from the varied tools we have. I agree. To me it has always seemed odd that Mediawiki's *core interface* has no large friendly button called "Tools". It could lead by default to project-space:Tools, i.e. to Wikipedia:Tools on Wikipedia. From then on, it's up to the community to curate the page usefully, probably including explaining about Toolforge and directing to its various directory meta-tools. But it's that first *invitation* and *discoverability* of the very notion of tools that's missing, for even some experienced editors. If some people agree, perhaps they'd be interested in starting a discussion on Mediawiki.org making the case for it, addressing the (inevitable) objections people may have, discussing the design and location of the button, etc. I don't know if the Foundation's Product team has thoughts about this, but even if it is not currently on any team's roadmap, it can be useful to work out a proposal with broad community support for how it could be done. The actual implementation would be technically simple, and mostly a question of the skin design: location, spacing, mobile, etc. A. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org… To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

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Alex Stinson
Amir Sarabadani
Anupam Dutta
Asaf Bartov
Bukola James
F. Xavier Dengra i Grau
Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
James Heilman
Johan Jönsson
Ndahiro Derrick Alter
Oby Ezeilo
Olushola Olaniyan