Hoi,
Wave might replace parts of MediaWiki but it would not replace Wikipedia...
To appreciate this, you have to realise what it is the WMF stands for.. It
is content first and foremost. MediaWiki is our current software. It is
great software and it has great functionality. When the Wave software is
able to replace aspects of MediaWiki, you will find that it is possible to
integrate it into MediaWiki.
If there is a problem, it is with MediaWiki. Given its license it cannot
contribute back to Wave.. Wave functionality can be incorporated in
MediaWiki because it does not have a viral license.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/5/31 Anthony <wikimail(a)inbox.org>
It's interesting thinking about it this way,
because Wave could potentially
even replace Wikipedia. Transfer the contents of a Wikipedia article to
Wave, and make a widget to display the current article (or, even better,
the
latest approved version). Now anyone can start a mirror with virtually no
costs by just putting the widget up on a website. I wonder how access
control works. Can any Wave recipient give read/write access to anyone
else? That'd be problematic. Can a bot be added to control the access?
If
not it seems like an easy extension to add.
It'd be a major money drain on Google, though. They'd bear virtually all
of
the hosting costs, and it's hard to see how they'd get anything in return.
Something would have to give eventually. But once the protocol is out and
the reference implementation is out, maybe it wouldn't matter. People
could
start up their own servers.
Adapt or perish, WMF.
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,
Much of the Wave functionality demonstrated is superior to what is
available in MediaWiki. Consider a LAN with OPLC systems, consider a Wave
server on the school server.. It would be pretty damn good to be able to
have all kinds of activities that makes use of the functionality that is
part of the reference implementation. Consider what a talk page would
look
like when with the Wave "back"
functionality.
Anthony said it before, think here of what Wave can do when you
concentrate
on its Wiki aspects. Now consider a talk page..
when it changes you may
get
an e-mail, you can go there and edit it... All
this functionality is
there
and more, Wave allows you to have a real time
conversation.. And all of
this
can happen on your LAN, your WAN or your Internet.
Given its license I am excited, given the demonstrated functionality I am
excited. The first thing is to get MediaWiki content into Wave. A
developer
friend of mine has read the developer
documentation and thinks he can do
this. What is needed is for him to have access to a Wave environment
where
he can experiment.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/5/31 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>
> 2009/5/31 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>om>:
> > Hoi,
> > Wave in its reference implementation relies on HTML 5. This means
that
it
> > requires a modern browser. With a browser it is possible to access
data
that
> is on a LAN or on the local computer. This would allow us to have
> "Wikipedia" type content stored locally or on a LAN. One question is
how
> will resources will react when newer data
becomes available, will it
> synchronise? When a resource available to Wave *can *be updated, it
makes
> no
> > difference if it on a system on a LAN or on the WAN / Internet when
it
is
the
availability of data that is essential.
What would be the point of that? Wave is good for collaborating, not
reading. If all they are going to be doing is reading Wikipedia then
just download a dump and put in on a local apache server for your LAN.
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