http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/030517.html
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10098
what do you suggest if admins on irc do not want to get involved,
foundation list is no the place, and friends of teh blocking admin
dont want to upset him?
an azdiyy list that no one reads? bug=∞
azdiyy