Hoi,
When you learn a language, the language should be learned warts and all. I
disagree with you that writing in the Latin script should be qualified as
acceptable at all. A WMF project is written for the benefit of the READERS
of that project
Thanks,
GerardM
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What are these neologisms you are talking about?
Please give multiple
examples. I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just skeptical of your
claims.
As far as Gothic goes, that is a project I was involved with closer to
the beginning and I advocated for the use of Gothic script. However,
people became lazy and resorted to using Latin script. It is really
not as difficult to use the Gothic script as they make it seem... and
in the future I hope we can overcome this nasty anachronism. Script
alone is not an argument enough to say that they are departing from
the corpus, however.
Mark
On 03/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
When Gothic was never written in the Latin script, the line is crossed
when
it is written in the Latin script. When a
encyclopaedia cannot be
written in
a language because there is not enough
vocabulary and consequently
neologisms have to be created to write the text or when words are given
a
meaning that they did not originally have the
line is crossed.
Certainly Gothic and probably Anglo-Saxon language have crossed the
line
already.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is essentially my position.
>
> However, there is a line to be crossed - when we are writing a
> language based on existing materials, and when we are writing in a
> language that we have made up. A Gothic or Anglo-Saxon Wikipedia
could
> possibly stay on the proper side of this
line, but a Sumerian
> Wikipedia probably could not and a Carian Wikipedia definitely could
> not.
>
> Mark
>
> On 02/04/2008, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) <
> > pathoschild(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The language subcommittee only allows languages that have a
living
> > > native community (except
Wikisource, due to its archivist
nature).
> > > This is based on an
interpretation of the Wikimedia Foundation
> mission
> > > to "provide the sum of human knowledge to every human being".
Thus,
> > > the overriding purpose of
allowing a wiki in a new language is
to
> make
> > > it accessible to more human beings. If a language has no native
> users,
> > > allowing a wiki in that language does not fit our mission
because
it
> > > does not make that project
accessible to more human beings.
Instead,
> a
> > > wiki in their native languages should be requested if it doesn't
> > > already exist.
> > >
> > > Typically, the users requesting a wiki in an extinct language
don't
> > > want to provide educational
material to more people at all, but
only
> > > want to promote or revive the
language. While these are noble
goals,
> > > they are not those of the
Wikimedia Foundation, so that a wiki
should
> > > not be created simply to fulfill
them.
> > >
> > > But that is my opinion. What do you think; should wikis be
allowed in
> > > every extinct language?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours cordially,
> > > Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > If there are people willing to develop and administer the language
> edition
> > of the encyclopedia, sure. At worst it is their time to waste.
Such
> users
> > should be willing to operate the wiki as in take care of vandalism
and
> etc.
> >
> > If the wiki somehow successfully resurrects a dead language, no
harm
> done.
> > It would be great publicity too. I see this as a no risk
endeavored
we
> > should take.
> >
> > The role of the language subcommittee in my view should be to
determine
> > weather or not there is enough of a
community to launch a new
language
> > edition of a project.
> >
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