On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:45 AM, James Heilman
<jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Josh
So where was the missed communication? Were there extenuating circumstances
regarding why Wikimedia Philippines was not able to produce the required
documents? Was active communication between Wikimedia Philippines and
affcom ongoing?
James
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Josh Lim <jamesjoshualim(a)yahoo.com
<mailto:jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com>> wrote:
If you folks seriously think that we weren’t
being “accountable”, then I
have serious doubts about how this process will remain sustainable.
I’m sorry, but this process has been exceedingly demotivating for everyone
involved. I’ve been trying to keep myself composed throughout the entire
process, but at this point I simply cannot.
I will gladly admit that we’ve made mistakes, us more than others. Every
organization does. But I will not allow the work that I’ve dedicated over
a decade of my life to be thrown out the window because we weren’t
“accountable”. To the best of our ability, we WERE accountable to our
community and to the movement. And I, frankly, feet that we were as
accountable as we could’ve been.
You may all want to know why I’ve been silent through this entire
process. It’s because I cannot, and I still cannot, process the grief this
entire process has brought upon Wikimedia Philippines, and especially
myself. I will try to be optimistic about the future, as people have been
telling me to do, but at this point in time, at least have some respect for
the work that we’ve done over the last six years. That’s really all I’m
asking for at this point.
Thanks,
Josh
On Apr 23, 2017, at 9:41 PM, James Heilman
<jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I second Itzik's comments. We need some degree of accountability.
Hopefully
this will encourage groups in the Philippines to become more
active again.
James
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <
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Thank you Maor for the update.
We usually love to see our movement expend and welcome recognition of new
organizations, but I strongly believe that we continuously need to check
and evaluate our current organizations.
Our brand, name and reputation are part of our core assets - and while
it's
not an easy step, I appreciate Affcom efforts not
only to recognize new
ones but also to de-recognize organizations that are not longer active or
non-compliance with our movement requirements.
Few weeks ago in Berlin we had a first meeting to start discuses what is
a
"movement accountability" and how we
evaluate organizations who operate
outside of the FDC process and I believe Affcom have a significant part
in
it.
*Regards,Itzik Edri*
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On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Maor Malul <maor_x(a)zoho.com
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> *
>
> Dear all,
>
> *
>
> **
>
> *Recognition as a Wikimedia affiliate - a chapter, thematic
organization,
> or user group - allows an independent group
to officially use the
Wikimedia
> name to further the Wikimedia mission, with
certain duties and
> responsibilities. While most Wikimedia affiliates adhere to the basic
> compliance standards set forth in their agreements with the Wikimedia
> Foundation, a protocol has been developed to address the exceptional
cases
> when a Wikimedia affiliate does not meet
minimum compliance standards
and
> their continued recognition as a Wikimedia
affiliate presents a risk
to the
> Wikimedia movement.*
>
> *
>
> On September 9, 2016, Wikimedia Philippines was notified of their
> suspension as a Wikimedia affiliate due to long standing and serious
> governance issues, as well as non-compliance with reporting
requirements
> which go as back as 2014, has been sent
multiple warnings regarding
them,
> and on the date mentioned above, was
provided with an explicit list of
> tasks and deadlines in order to return to compliance with their chapter
> agreement. The chapter failed to complete these tasks by the deadline
of
> November 28, 2016, and was consequently
notified that they would no
longer
> be recognized as a Wikimedia chapter after
the termination of their
Chapter
> Agreement on March 1, 2017. It is important
to make clear that the
> Affiliations Committee will continue to support other organized
Wikimedia
> communities and their activities in the
Philippines.
>
> If you have questions about what this means for the community members
in
> their region or language areas, we have put
together a very basic FAQ,
> which may be found
at<https://meta.wikimedia.org/
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