Le 5 mars 2019 à 10:07, Peter Southwood
<peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> a écrit :
"When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."
Overreacting is a tradition at Wikipedia.
Cheers,
Peter
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From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of Michel Vuijlsteke
Sent: 03 March 2019 19:49
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of Wikimedia projects for anti-LGBT+ "humour"
I don't understand in which possible world anyone thought this was a
good idea.
The MfD, that is. It, and the entire discussion in favour, reads as
some sort of caricature of the worst SJW-type excesses.
M.
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 at 16:41, Fæ
<faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As the last second repost had the same format error, I am trying for
a final time. How embarrassing!
****
I would like to apologise to SMcCandlish and Barbara (WVS), and more
generally to the Wikipedia community, for any possible implication
given in my previous email to this list, that authors of the
problematic Signpost "Pronouns beware" essay, might in any way be
thought to be transphobic. This was an important matter to word
precisely and accurately. I take responsibility and apologise, it was
stupid of me to fail to ensure that there could be no way that my
words might appear to be intended as an attack on the person, rather
than criticism of the judgement used when writing this essay, and the
choice to publish it on Wikipedia.
I refrained from correcting this email previously, as it was thought
to be better to avoid stirring up any further drama, however this was
being interpreted by one of the authors as deliberately avoiding
making any correction.[1] I apologise for that misjudgement, and my
failure to understand how a delay would appear. My thanks go to
SMcCandlish for raising their complaint that a correction was needed.
The rest of this email runs on the long side, if you have been
following the deletion discussion, there is probably nothing new here.
:-)
My action in acting transparently as a whistleblower, was to
criticise the editorial judgement of creating an essay which made
jokes about pronoun usage which would, and has, been read as making a
bad joke that mocks genderqueer and transgender people. This problem
of how the article could be read, was raised by others before publication.
Overwhelmingly the deletion discussion created for the essay has had
feedback from many long term and experienced Wikipedians who were
alarmed and upset that the article was published without this problem
being acted on, and either halting publication, or ensuring a
resubmission so there could be no confusion that the article appeared
abusive or a failure to respect genderqueer and nonbinary people.[0]
Many deletion comments have called the article "transphobic". Nobody
as far as I have seen, has mistakenly called the authors transphobes.
There is a good faith presumption that cause is an error of judgement.
It has been explained several times by myself and others in related
Wikipedia discussions that objecting to a published joke being
offensive to a minority group, in no way implies or presumes that the
author(s) deliberately intended to cause offense to that minority
group.Thanks,
Thankfully the Signpost essay has been hidden from view while the
deletion discussion continues, an action that resolves the immediate
issue, and removes any need for me to be involved.
I have not made a complaint to the Technical Spaces Code of Conduct
Committee, and decided to let a thread on meta stay closed with
regard to use of a unpaid volunteer WMF related title that requires
compliance with the Code of Conduct.
I sent a friendly confidential email to the Wikimedia Wiki Education
project for comment, as Barbara chose to publish the essay using the
unpaid volunteer account that specifically represented Wiki
Education, though again, this was not a formal complaint. I had one
informal reply back saying they were looking into it. I have not
emailed anyone else with regard to the authors or their actions.
Explicitly, I have not contacted anyone's employer nor anyone else
not directly part of Wikimedia projects.
Barbara has thoughtfully stated in a personal email to me, and on her
Wikipedia talk page, that she is preparing a formal apology as one of
the coauthors.
Thankfully SMcCandlish has agreed with the article being hidden from
view, and continues to debate the article deletion. They chose to
raised an ANI request against me for "canvassing and
incivility/aspersions in gender-related disputes", which was closed
without action toThanks,day.[3] At the time of writing this email,
there are claims by SMcCandlish that they are "accused of being a
transphobe", it is unclear who is doing this.[4]
The WMF have taken the unusual step of refusing an email promoting
the Signpost on the announcements list, due to "multiple reports of
concerns related to potentially harmful content in the February 2019
edition of the Signpost". I made no formal email complaint to the WMF
about Signpost, or anything else. The multiple reports were from
other concerned people that are unknown to me. Sadly the immediate
personal response to the WMF by the Signpost Production Manager has
been "I find your rejection of my email to be an empty political
gesture bowing to political pressure from braying sheeple."[5] No
other Signpost contributor has made any other reply, either
personally or on behalf of Signpost. I have seen no plans or
proposals to change or improve the review process or policies for the Signpost.
Thank you for those sending private messages of encouragement,
support and information. Should anything similar happen on Wikipedia
in the future, this experience has taught me to run as fast as
possible in the opposite direction, rather than putting my head above the parapet.
Becoming a figure of hatred is not worth the stress, or having to
read targeted mockery wrapped as "jokes", published on the project
you love and support. Throughout our Wikimedia projects, there
remains huge room for improvement in how best to ensure correct,
friendly and respectful treatment of minorities, especially us queers.
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