Wil,
Just for the record, "hands-off" is the best way to describe our
approach to wikimedia-l moderation. We (the administrators) sometimes
step in when a thread or a poster gets way out of control, but for
this list, that bar's set pretty high.
The "soft post limit" that's been pointed out to you exists as a
guideline to keep individuals from dominating a conversation, which...
yeah, you kind of are, at this point. Nobody wants to take away your
ability to defend yourself, but you might want to try limiting the
number of things you have to defend all at once.
Sorry your experience turned sour. If it's any consolation, we've had way worse.
Austin
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Wil Sinclair <wllm(a)wllm.com> wrote:
As I mentioned to Sam, I have just one more thing to
say here before I
let you guys deliberate on whether to block me.
I've been getting tons of private emails from people who say that they
don't want to see me blocked, but that they are afraid to say that on
the list, because they feel like they might be intimidated or
ostracized.
That's right: *afraid*
I think we should all let that sink in for a moment. . .
. . . Now, is that OK? Is that how we want our community to function?
I'm talking to each and every one of you out there, not the few dozen
that seem to be only people posting here (and I seem to have a strong
lead at the moment ;) ). If you are tired of being afraid or worn out
by the rough and tumble discourse here, then keep your chin up. There
are a lot more of you out there than you might think; I'm hearing from
many of them now. Wikipedia can change- but only with your help.
,Wil
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Lila: Thank you kindly for these recent notes. It is wonderful to
hear your thoughts on your first weeks.
Wil: Working through public, logged forums is a fine principle; one
that I try to follow myself. It helps avoid misunderstandings.
Pete Forsyth writes:
I'd like to suggest that Wil's access to
this email list be blocked, at
least as a temporary measure... I suspect that consensus among
active Wikimedians would be pretty strong at this point.
Pete: That is a wholly uncalled for suggestion; reckless, if you
would. Please be kind. As you can see from the comments of others,
there is no such consensus, mainly just requests to slow down.
Erik Moeller writes:
As a reminder, this list has an official
"soft limit" of 30 posts per [month]
Wil Sinclair writes:
just for guidance here- should I not publicly
respond to those
who have publicly address me or talked about my actions or words
I find it helpful to quote and briefly respond to many posts of
interest in a thread, in a single reply (as I did here). And I try to
make 5 edits to a project for every post, to keep a balanced
perspective...
Sam
(PS: Victor, the A. Dewey Wikireader Project always makes me smile.
Thank you for mentioning it here. :-)
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