Well maybe all of you are independently wealthy, have laptop and and will
travel, but as I see it, for the rest of us, without travel budget
facilitated by WMF and chapters, I don't see how we can achieve meetups to
do any brainstorming at all. And poring over lists of ideas tucked away in
the recesses of the deep dark Meta is not my idea of a good time (but as
ever, thanks for the links Nemo)
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Gryllida <gryllida(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
Pine,
We need more of
- decentralized development so that people can write new gadgets and
extensions easier like firefox jetpack for example.. Each project needs its
own editing and feedback tools that it would happily design on wiki in
collaborative fashion
- means to encourage more content work from community with less noise and
drama
I could expect wmf to do the former but the latter is up to us all, you
and me...
As people replied, & please mind that you do not know the situation in
other projects and languages - proper feedback or outreach software is
needed here and community can shape a spec at least, which the wmf can code
or fund through its Ieg grants program. I am sure you could draft the idea
and help it evolve, then apply for a grant and hire someone to do it.
The brainstorming might be too early, I am yet to see any proper analysis
of what the users /really/ need or have trouble with (no, not learning the
markup or getting articles or uploads in, unlike the current focuses). We
need a lot more information/feedback here than a brainstorming session...
Gryllida.
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Pine W wrote:
Hi community members,
I'm wondering how many people might be interested in having an IRC
meeting
regarding the community's relationship to WMF
and potentially developing
our own strategic plan that would be independent of WMF. In the past few
days I've heard some defense of WMF but mainly criticism and pessimism,
especially people recalling past hurts and feeling powerless to negotiate
with WMF. Perhaps it's time that we in the community create our own
strategic plan and develop strategic options.
Please note that this would be a long-term planning meeting and we are
not
likely to make major decisions, but we would
start brainstorming and
laying
some foundations.
Topics of possible discussion regarding our relationship with WMF:
1. Strategic options, such as finding alternative organizations to WMF
for
hosting Wikimedia sites or creating a new hosting
organization that is
aligned with community values.
2. Activism at the Board and grassroots levels.
Topics of possible discussion regarding other strategic issues:
3. Internal reform of the community, such as a fresh look at Wikimedia's
founding principles and the Five Pillars, including civility.
4. What we can do as a community about our active editor statistics.
I expect this would be an interesting meeting if people are interested in
participating, and I hope that we would brainstorm some ideas about how
we
want to move forward on all of these questions
and others if we have
time.
If there are many participants, which would be
*great*, then we may need
additional meetings or to move the conversation on-wiki.
If you're interested, you can respond on list but feel free to respond to
me off-list also. I'm just trying to get a sense of the interest level of
the community. I hear a lot of people being upset but what I feel we need
to know is how many people would be interested in creating a long-term
strategic plan and brainstorming strategic options.
Thanks,
Pine
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