Hi,
To give a little more context: as I indicated on other places as well (and
perhaps by other people), competitions across countries are hard to compare
because they face very different challenges, and it is even unfair to
assume they are the same thing. The goals were not always identical (in
some countries a lot of value was added by laying foundations for future
projects with the partners or by growing a team of dedicated volunteers
where there was none before, in some countries the number of images was the
most important factor while in others the long term effects of specific
editors was most important - to name a few).
That is not to ridicule the work put into this analysis, I only want to
make sure nobody jumps to conclusions here before reading more thoroughly
the reports and looking at more data and most importantly: talk with the
volunteers who organized the numerous (53 in 2013) competitions.
That being said, I think I could agree wholeheartedly if the conclusion
were to be "money is usually not the bottle neck" (although there are
exceptions).
Best,
Lodewijk
(member of the (international coordinating) team of Wiki Loves Monuments
2010-2013)
2014-05-30 18:54 GMT+02:00 Jaime Anstee <janstee(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
Hello Lila,
I wanted to answer your question regarding the bubbles in the bubble
chart as that chart has been pulled from our *Program Evaluation (beta)*
reports, this one from the Wiki Loves Monuments report, available at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Library/WLM
The bubble charts are intersecting data along three dimensions, an x- and
y- axis as well as a z-axis illustrated by bubble size. That particular
chart, "Graph 2: Budget, participation, and photos added," illustrates the
number of participants along the horizontal x-axis, budget along the
vertical y-axis, and number of images uploaded along the vertical z-axis
illustrated by bubble size and numeric label.
The data represent 11 Wiki Loves Monuments implementations in 2012 for
which we had all three points of data reported. The reviewed contests had
budget inputs ranging from less than $1,000 USD to almost $17,000 USD. The
number of participants ranging from 75 to 2,005, and the number of images
added ranged from nearly 2,000 to more than 30,000. (The raw data are also
available in the original report as appendix tables)
The varying sizes of the bubbles — with larger bubbles representing more
images uploaded — show that the number of photos increase significantly
when events have over 500 participants. There does not seem to be a direct
relationship between budget, participant count, or images uploaded. The
bubble size doesn't get larger or smaller — meaning when more money is
invested in an Wiki Loves Monuments implementation, that doesn't mean the
event will have a higher participant count or a higher upload count.
Hope that helps to clarify the chart. Please let me know if you have
further questions!
Best regards,
Jaime
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Lila Tretikov <lila(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Rodrigo -- what do the bubbles represent in the
chart -- countries?
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argenton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Pine,
For me, this is just a small and visible part of the iceberg, sadly.
I not will go deeper in that, because I do not have stomach for,
patiences,
> and way to do that.
>
> I already send massages to Asaf pointing this, in respect. But thanks
for
the tip.
Cheers.
On 22 May 2014 03:52, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Rodrigo,
>
> Thank you for these questions. There have been questions about the
India
> program as well, so these questions about
Brazil can be added to the
list
> of
> issues for WMF to investigate.
>
> I am not personally familiar with either of the Brazil or India
catalyst
> > programs,
> > but I suggest that you contact Asaf or Anasuya if you don't get a
> response
> > on this list or on the discussion page within two days.
> >
> > Thank you again for bringing up these questions.
> >
> > Pine
> >
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