On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:18:51 +1000
David Gerard <fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
NSK (nsk2(a)wikinerds.org) [041027 10:11]:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:26, David Gerard
wrote:
> what was your Wikipedia username again?
The reason I have not answered that question is
because
it was first asked by
a person who offended me ("as faulty as your
logic", 23
October 2004).
Therefore it can never be asked again by anyone else
ever? I used to have a
girlfriend like that. Used to.
That said, I also don't understand why I need
to answer
this question. Is it
some kind of policy in Wikipedia to say your user
names
in emails? I notice
many people post without mentioning their
usernames and
I wonder why you
picked me specifically.
Because I'm trying to work out how much credibility to
assign to your
radical and jarring ideas for the project.
> Do you in fact edit on Wikipedia at all?
Does it matter? I cannot understand why you ask
this
question. Are your
mailing lists restricted only to your members? I
don't
think so, because it
was very easy for me to register (if that's
not the
intended behaviour, you
need to configure your Mailman installation).
It matters in terms of how seriously your suggestions are
going to be
taken. The reason I ask is to know whether you have
*any* experience of
this wiki, the one you're advancing the ideas for. Your
messages so far
seem to indicate you don't actually understand much of
Wikipedia culture;
with a username, it would be possible to see what your
edits are like, what
you do and so on and get more of a handle on where you're
coming from.
You can find me in many mailing lists or fora,
including FSF-GNU/GNOME/CC/AMD,
It's not a True Name thing (that being no secret), but
your persona within
Wikipedia - if any.
The essential point I'm trying to get across is that
you're starting from a
position of no credibility. If that's fine by you, then
continue as you
are; however, if you wish to be taken seriously and (as I
tried to explain
before) your ideas gain traction, I suspect it won't be
adequate.
and I am lurking on many other mailing lists and
communities, while I have
also joined projects such as
Drupal.org and
OpenFormats.org and very soon I
will join KDE. Slashdot has published stories
written
by me (KDE/FSF's
WIWO...) and my karma there is Good. My
university
dissertation is on wikis.
I notice some people refer to me as
"he/she" and I
wonder whether they have
noticed who am I.
Then surely you see what I meant about the phenomenon
that although an
outside perspective is good, you need to be able to
explain it in insider
terms for traction. Per project. This being not just any
wiki, but the
biggest by a long shot. Ask [[User:Kate Turner]] about
the difference in
feel between a small wiki and Wikipedia.
participate in your mailing lists as a
representative
of a friendly website
which seeks to have relations, cooperation and
knowledge sharing with
Wikimedia. But if WMF does not wish to cooperate
or
thinks I am a
"competitor", then you can just say so
and I will
leave.
I wouln't say that at all (speaking only for myself).
Finally, I would like to know how we can
implement
interwiki links to each
other and whether WMF is interested in this kind
of
linking.
That would be a nice thing. At present it's largely
hackable through
templates in the 'External links' section of articles.
you go brother,fight the good fight
- d.
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