Thanks for the pointers, I personally disagree with some parts of it (e.g.
Twitter is a company and we are an NGO) BUT since it passed the community
consultation (and I somehow missed it to raise my feedback), I don't want
to be vocal about the high level reasoning behind the project.
What I would extremely appreciate is more transparent communication to the
community about such large changes (especially sooner). Something like a
two-line text on a phabricator has lots of potential for misunderstanding.
Thanks again.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:44 PM James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Further details are forthcoming from WMF staff.
J
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:42 PM James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Was discussed here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recomme…
and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Re…
James
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Yair Rand <yyairrand(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The strategy recommendations include the text: "Explore fees or
> sustainability models for enterprise-scale commercial reusers, taking
care
> to avoid revenue dependencies or other undue
external influence in
product
> design and development. / Develop appropriate
safeguards to ensure
> continued free, unrestricted access for non-commercial, research, and
> small
> to moderate commercial use." Earlier versions elaborate somewhat, and
> there
> were considerable reservations expressed about the idea during the
> process.
>
> It is quite concerning.
>
> -- Yair Rand
>
> בתאריך יום א׳, 14 ביוני 2020 ב-14:33 מאת Amir Sarabadani <
> ladsgroup@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello,
> > Today I stumbled upon this public phabricator ticket [1] created by
> someone
> > from WMF starting with:
> > "My team is creating bi-weekly HTML Dumps for all of the wikis, except
> for
> > wikidata as part of the paid API project."
> >
> > I have so many questions:
> > - What is the "paid API" project? Are we planning to make money out
of
> our
> > API? Now are we selling our dumps?
> > - If so, why is this not communicated before? Why are we kept in the
> dark?
> > - Does the board know and approve it?
> > - How is this going to align with our core values like openness and
> > transparency?
> > - The ticket implicitly says these are going to be stored on AWS ("S3
> > bucket"). Is this thought through? Specially the ethical problems of
> > feeding Jeff Bezos' empire? (If you have seen this episode of Hasan
> > Minhaj's on ethical issues of using AWS [2]). Why can't we do/host
this
> on
> > Wikimedia infrastructure? Has this been evaluated?
> > - Why is the community not consulted about this?
> >
> > Maybe I missed announcements, consultations or anything, forgive me
for
> my
> > ignorance. Any pointers is enough. I also understand diversifying our
> > revenue is a good tool for rainy days but a consultation with the
> community
> > wouldn't be too bad.
> >
> > [1]:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254275
> > [2]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5maXvZ5fyQY
> >
> > Best
> > --
> > Amir (he/him)
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