John, please explain what your point is here. I mean really, picking on
individual people who voted in the election? That's crossing the line,
especially as they met the voting eligibility criteria for the election
involved, which happened 16 months ago. I expect better from you.
If you would like to propose different voting eligibility criteria for
future elections, including the one that will take place some time around
June 2015, please do so - perhaps consider offering to chair the election
committee for next year. But insinuating that some people didn't deserve
to vote, or shouldn't have been allowed to vote using a staff account, when
that was in the eligibility criteria for many previous elections (not just
the 2013 one) is just rude. As best I can tell, there were no concerns
expressed in the lead-up the 2013 election about WMF staff having franchise.
Risker/Anne
On 6 October 2014 22:26, John Mark Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Risker
<risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 5 October 2014 20:51, Marc A. Pelletier
<marc(a)uberbox.org> wrote:
On 10/05/2014 08:24 AM, John Mark Vandenberg
wrote:
I checked a few of the WMF admin staff who have
been employed more
than a year, and many dont look likely to reach the 300 threshold,
even with wikitech and foundation wikis included.
An interesting question, I think, is /whether/ anyone from the
Foundation ever voted that would not otherwise have had sufferage from
the edits requirement?
Pretty sure they have, Marc. It's difficult to tell for certain, because
some of the applicable wikis where people might be posting are not
included
in the SUL grouping (for example, FDC wiki or
other non-public wikis,
Foundation wiki, etc).
It should be 'quite easy' to confirm wrt staff by looking for '(WMF)'
and 'office.wikimedia.org' in the raw data, and filtering out any
developers with merged changesets.
https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/list/290?limit=2000
This is not easy for volunteers because some of the staff usernames
are not SUL accounts, dont have links to personal accounts, and
userpages dont include names, so sorry for any mistakes made in the
following.
MRay (WMF) - no SUL account, or account by that name on meta or
wmfwiki - 'ray' doesnt appear on wmf:Staff
GGrossmeier_(WMF) - no SUL account, but an account by that name does
exist on wmfiwki, and belongs to dev Greg Grossmeier, but didnt have
merged gerrit patches for that period AFAICS.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:%22Greg+Grossmeier+%253Cgreg%2540w…
Ldavis (WMF) - SUL account, easily meets community voting criteria
LVilla (WMF) - SUL account with a link to personal account
'user:LuisVilla', which from a quick count (I didnt use the
eligibility checker tool) to have met either criteria of the 200 total
edits or 20 recent edits.
Jorm (WMF) - didnt check; quite certain they were eligible one way or
another.
Sbouterse (WMF), now Siko (WMF), and Seeeko - SUL accounts, achieved
the community voting criteria with both staff and personal account.
woot!
JMathewson (WMF) - SUL account, easily meets community voting criteria
KLove (WMF) - SUL account, may have amassed 200 edits across all
projects with a few months of employment (I didnt use the eligibility
checker tool to confirm this). borderline case; but had she known
that she needed a few more edits to be eligible, my guess is she would
have done the necessary edits with ease in order to qualify.
Gyoung - not a SUL account, but does have SUL accounts GYoung_(WMF)
and GayleKaren, but between them doesnt appear to have met the
criteria for the 2013 election, but will easily meet the criteria for
the 2015 election.
Lcarr - not a SUL account, but lots of merged patches.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:%22Lcarr+%253Cgeekgirl%2540gmail.c…
The other exception is for WMF board members; the easiest way to check
those is by username.
While scanning the list I saw a few chapter people who voted from
[
country].wikimedia.org , so it would also be worth checking those to
see if they were also eligible on content wikis. If chapterwikis are
included in the eligibility counts, then foundationwiki and wikitech
(and other WMF public wikis) should also be counted.
--
John Vandenberg
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