Hoi,
You will not see me write about subjects I do not care about. So the notion
that anyone writing about subjects you care about is a fallacy. It takes
horses for courses, you will write about what you care about and so will I.
Others may look into what is missing and find that their subject matter
expertise is called for.
When you state that Mr Trump does not know about Indian-Pakistan conflicts,
does he know that a Nigerian governor outspends presidents of neighbouring
countries.. There are elections for Nigerian governors...
When Mr Trump does not know, and we do not either, we EXACTLY find a spike
in a subject people are looking for..
Thanks,
GerardM
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 10:07, Vi to <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That's an unstable process on a long-term, with
popular topics
cannibalizing resources. Top read articles are already about two or three
sports, some TV series and three or four music topics.
These are also the most popular topics among editors but if you'll start
focusing energies on these already popular topics you'll end up having no
resources to be spent on "female combatants during Russian civil war",
"near to extinction languages in Brazil", "computational chemestry in
late
XX century".
The way we self-identify as a project deeply affects our results:
promoting the idea of Wikipedia as "the pop encyclopedia" (instead of
"the
free encyclopedia embedding pop topics") will weaken our commitment to
diversity and quality.
Also, topic popularity is mutable on a daily basis and it's driven by a
very narrow number of media (basically Google/YouTube and Facebook) which
will gain a complete influence over us.
To me the mission of an encyclopedia is providing the *knowledge* (not
*information*) which is worth collecting and preserving. The information
people need/want is likely to be a subset of this.
If Wikipedia is also an educational medium we should find a way to ask the
ordes of people looking for new mr. Trump's bizarreness "hey, do you know
the background of India-Pakistan conflicts?"
Vito
Il giorno lun 11 mar 2019 alle ore 06:19 David Goodman <dggenwp(a)gmail.com>
ha scritto:
The idea of an encyclopedia is to provide the
information people need or
want that's appropriate to the format. It would be useful to see what
they
want that is appropriate but we do not have --
and also useful to see
what
they look for that isn't appropriate for us.
Within what's appropriate, I
see no reason why selection of topics should not be driven by reader
interests as much as by editor interests. Our purpose is not to practice
our writing skills for our own benefit.
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 6:58 PM Vi to <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The idea of a popularity-driven encyclopaedia
scares 😱
Vito
Il giorno dom 10 mar 2019 alle ore 22:26 Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> ha scritto:
> Hoi,
> I have been thinking about it.. There is a place for research but
really
> > why can we not have the data that allows us to seek out what people
are
>
actually looking for and do not find.. Why can we not promote what
proves
to be of
interest [1] ?
Thanks,
GerardM
[1]
https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-marketing-approach-to-what-i…
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:13, Leila Zia <leila(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As I mentioned in an earlier thread [1], we will be running reader
> > surveys across a number of Wikipedia languages to learn about the
> > reader needs and motivations in these languages as well as some of
> > their demographic information (and perhaps the correlations between
> > demographics and user motivations and characteristics).
> >
> > If your language community is interested to have statistics on the
> > distribution of reader gender, age, education, native language, and
> > geographic region (rural/urban) in your language (and depending on
how
> > much data we collect in your language,
perhaps more insights), this
is
> your
chance to indicate interest at:
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Characterizing_Wikipedia_Read…
> > >
> > > I initially communicated 2019-02-15 as the deadline to sign up.
Since
> >
then, we have run a pilot test on enwiki and we are investigating
some
> > > of the results to see if any changes in the survey questions are
> > > needed. You have now time until 2019-03-15 to indicate interest.
> > >
> > > As always: this call is primarily a service to your language
> > > community. If you like it, take action on it. If you don't, no
action
> is needed. :)
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
> [1]
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