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Jeroenvrp wrote:
Op donderdag 28 december 2006 21:42, schreef Brion
Vibber:
JeroenVP for instance has made clear that he does
not care about the
core values of Wikipedia at all (making knowledge available to the
public as free content) but only cares about not ever seeing anything he
perceives as an "advertisement".
I assume the above statement is a way to polarise the discussion ever more and
I will ignore these remarks.
It was meant to be a provocative opening statement, but it appears
accurate based on your actions and words last night and you have not
explained otherwise, so I continue to stand by these words.
It's about
free/open educational content. It's about making materials
open and available for use by the public, including the creation of
derivative works and redistribution.
Exactly, but you you miss the point completely Brion. It's advertisement at a
location where the free content is CREATED, not redistributed/mirrored.
Actually I don't care about if people make money with Wikipedia content, the
same applies for Linux distributions, but we are talking about advertisement
on the location where the content is created. That kills our reliability, so
far we have that allready.
How? Please explain.
It's not about business-models, websites, but
about the source off the free content. Any connection to what kind of
company, religion, political party, government, whatever... will harm one of
the basic principles of this great project.
How? Please explain.
I do expect
some people to leave; that's not because they're bad people.
But some people are going to discover, sooner or later, that they've
been chasing something *other* than free content, and that Wikipedia
isn't really the project for them after all.
Hopefully it will be those people who endanger Wikipedia and such, like
selling us out and don't have any respect for the community. The community
who created Wikipedia and such.
Perhaps you missed it, but the foundation came from the community and is
made up of community members.
Perhaps you missed the last six years solid, where there have always
been disagreements within the community and communications problems
between different parts of it.
Me, I noticed. That's probably why I've been screaming for better
organization and communication in this fundraiser debacle.
Communication is the #1 problem facing us. Do you believe the best
response to this is to engage in edit wars?
I don't.
That's probably why I'm posting here instead of dropping the nukes and
blocking edit-warring sysops.
What good would it do other than piss people off?
- -- brion vibber (brion @
pobox.com / brion @
wikimedia.org)
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