Rupert,
My comment below referred to the point Kunal made about hosting should the movement decide
(and it is a movement decision in my view) to go forward with a paid API. There is a
healthy debate as you point out about the wisdom or otherwise of doing so. But should a
decision be made to go forward, I believe that the hosting can be done on WMF clusters run
by the Cloud Services team to avoid putting our content on 3rd party commercial services.
While I was on staff, and I don’t think this has changed since my departure, the
preference was to maintain control of content - including accessing it - internally to
protect movement privacy. If I had a penny for every time I got an offer of “free” hosting
from AWS and others, my penny jar would be overflowing!
All the best,
Victoria
On Jul 22, 2020, at 12:50 AM, rupert THURNER
<rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
victoria, discussions to monetize the wikipedia content in one or the other
way are as old as wikipedia. some people say "why should i continue editing
and supporting wikipedia in my free time, or donate money, attracted by the
vision to make it available to all, without condition, when WMF starts
selling parts of it?" while the others feel that wikipedia relying on
donations only keeps them at a shoestring budget, which meanwhile grew to
100 million USD a year. up to now the discussion always ended with a
similar result: wikipedia would loose more than it would gain, and the
initiative stopped. why this time it would be different? even more so as
this API idea was already there when sue gardner joined 10 or more years
ago. but maybe it becomes a good idea over time if it is brought up often
enough and the environment changes. in 20 years or so, when the wikipedia
content is auto-generated, auto-translated and WMF has no employees any
more and no need of voluntary work this for sure would work.
rupert
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:19 PM Victoria Coleman <
vstavridoucoleman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Kunal! The WMF Cloud Services team can totally
provide the needed
support. The Foundation would have to invest them to build up the team
which is over stretched but that should easily pay for itself as revenue
starts flowing in from the paid API.
Victoria
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Kunal Mehta
<legoktm(a)member.fsf.org> wrote:
Hi,
On 2020-07-09 13:15, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote:
Which cloud provider would you recommend?
Wikimedia Cloud Services, which incidentally, has the fastest network
connection to Wikimedia sites by virtue of it being hosted *inside* the
cluster.
-- Legoktm
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