I'd like to thank Nasir, he mentioned we
altogether tried before to form the
chapter. I don't agree to use the term "failed" with the initiative that
we
all have taken before. We wanted to inform and aware about the need and
importance of a Chapter, and we tried with our various efforts. Now we can
see our results, lots of people are coming forward to take the flag ahead.
At the meta page the status of the memorandum is set as "Done". Is that is
for the draft is done or the memorandum is final? And some signatories said
that the memorandum has been sent to the ChapCom for review. If the draft is
done but not finalize then there is scope of discussion and change. But if
it is final and submitted to the ChapCom, is it possible to discuss about it
and change it? If people want to comment on the clauses, how they should
approach? Should they discuss it at the mailing list or ask to the
signatories or discuss it at the talk page of the memorandum page?
Previously I encourage peoples to be a part of the Chapter. Some of them are
still active who really feeling left out. They don't have interest for any
post at the executive board of the Chapter. Since they worked hard for the
chapter and has feelings and soft corner for this. Couple of them shown
interest to be a signatory and asked how would they do it. Is there any way
to include active people worked for the chapter at the signatories list?
Should they apply to the existing signatories or should they edit the wiki
pages and include their names by their own. Or if they express their
interest to the mailing list, is it possible to include them to the list?
Our future can be bright. Let's make it together.
Belayet
On 27 May 2011 02:55, nasir khan <nasir8891(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
When i was reading the previous posts i found that some of you are
interpreting this step in different ways. As Bellayet bhai, Tanvir and some
others mentioned that we have tried before to form the chapter. I was
involved there, and those times we first announced that we were going to
form a chapter. Then initially a large number of people showed their
interest. We made the plans and discuss on it but unfortunately the
initiative was failed.
This one is one of the reasons to work primarily in a closed group. And
here we (the signatories of MoA) just made a draft Memorandum of Association
of our organization and then announcing that, the process has started and
every one should join now. The only difference is here the announcement has
came when the draft bylaws is ready and previously the announcement and
discussion was the only step.
Now there are a lots of tasks to do. like the draft of MoA could be
reviewed, plans have to made that what events could be done after the
approval and so on. If someone thought that some of us just made a team and
declaring that we have all the powers, then it will be wrong. We just tried
to start the process only and as mentioned int he MoA the formal executive
committee will be elected in a transparent process.
regards
Nasir Khan Saikat
user:nasir8891
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Tanvir Rahman <wikitanvir(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear everyone,
I want to clear few things myself. As Shabab bhai said earlier, we have
been trying to form our local chapter for almost two years. If I remember
that correctly, last time, we have discussed that in October 2009. We met in
our fifth Dhaka meet-up [1]. We discussed about forming the chapter there,
we participated in many IRC meetings on #wikimedia-bd channel. I, myself was
in that process. We talked about preparing the MoA, and some necessary
stuffs to create the chapter. We did not discuss about chapter set-up
committee in our mailing list that time either. We created the team with the
persons who participated in that meet-up. We just assumed good faith that
those people who attended in that meet-up, and sacrificed their money and
time, were the really interested ones. But unfortunately that effort did not
work.
But this time, we have given this process a real kick-start at least, and
what we really did here? We just formed a little team of interested persons
to work in this process. If any of you think this team is the so called
“authority”, then no, it's clearly not like that. As everybody said here,
real authority will be elected by the community members. And as of now, we
have done only two things:
a) We have prepared the “draft” Memorandum of Association of our
organization.
b) We contacted to chapters committee, and told them we are interested to
form the chapter this time. This is just one step ahead; we stepped up to
planned chapter from a chapter in discussion phase [2].
None of them is no big deal. Actually, this is some boring paper works.
And very few people are interested in this kind of stuffs.
And if you are thinking about autocracy, then I have to say, every
chapter or organization has an approved bylaws (for any legal purpose), and
every member of that organization (including office bearers and board
members) have to maintain that. This is not optional. It's obvious.
As Tonmoy bhai and Austin has said above, I think you all better discuss
here about the only real ting we have really done so far, the bylaws. If you
have any disagreement or comment or just a wishful feedback on that, please
share this here with us.
Regards,
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[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Dhaka/Dhaka5
[2]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters#Planned_chapters
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