Hello,
Most of the active editors on Arab Wikipedia are living in the Arab
diaspora in Europe and America, not in the Middle
East.
That's Not true. The majority of active editors on ar.wp live in the middle
east. The largest single denomination of active editors are Egyptians living
in Egypt. Which makes sense demographically since Egypt is the most populous
Arab country. And the total number of editors actually living in the middle
east is much larger than the number of editors (like me) living outside it.
The main problem I see is that most of them do not involve themselves much
in anything outside ar.wp (meta, elections, wikimania, etc), but it is
definitely not a wikipedia maintained by diaspora as you suggest.
I'm also delighted to hint that in the wake of
Wikimania and the
connections it helped forge, some upcoming projects for Wikimedia Israel
among Arab Israelis (who make about 20% of Israeli population) and with
Palestinian organizations are now being discussed and considered.
We're really keen on increasing the number of editors on Arab Wikipedia
from among Israeli Arabs, whose socioeconomic, educational and political
status in comparison to neighboring countries make us hopeful will indeed
become active editors.
While I strongly support and appreciate the move to include more
Arab-Israelis and some day maybe Palestinians in your outreach, I don't
appreciate the last portion of the comment (and I am trying not to be
offended by it). If it was based on your earlier assumption, like I said it
is not correct.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:58, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hoi,
Having Wikimania during Ramadan will prevent people from attending. The
dates for Wikimania next year are also likely during Ramadan.
One way of looking at the absence of the Muslim world is that in
Alexandria there was a sizable group from Israel. In the end it is about
taking the opportunity. The opportunity for most was there with the
exception from for instance our Iranian friends who are expressly forbidden
to come.
Thanks,
Gerard
2011/8/21 WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>
I flew home on Friday. Unfortunately I had been
unable to find anyone
capable of printing a Tshirt with "Do I look like the sort of person who
packs my own luggage?", or at least not on a Tshirt in my size (walrus). And
as promised I hadn't made a Wikimania CD.
It took me 40 minutes to get through security, check in and passport
control, and unlike in Heathrow I didn't have to remove my shoes or belt, or
even discard my water. After I said that I had received a gift while I was
in Israel they were a little interested in my Wikimania bag, and I had to
dig it out of my backpack and let it be cursorily inspected. Maybe next year
we can make the bag from Hemp and include in it some sparklers or small
fireworks for the closing party with perhaps a blade or some scissors for
people wanting to customise their badges.
As one of those who argued against holding Wikimania in Israel, I must
say that I was very impressed at how well the whole thing was done. I
think that the organisers did a brilliant job, I liked the food, and they
even had sufficient WiFi. The music at two of the parties was a bit loud
for socialising, but that's probably me showing my age. However I don't
think this was really a completely Global Wikimania. As some of us feared it
would be, this was a Wikimania that largely missed the Muslim world. I don't
think that this is the fault of the organisers, but clearly holding our
annual conference in Israel during Ramadan was not the best way to encourage
people from Islamic countries to attend. I hope that in future we can make
sure that Wikimania is more inclusive than that.
WSC
2011/8/18 Harel Cain <harel.cain(a)gmail.com>
I don't suggest taking the train from
Jerusalem to the airport - it
takes a very long time - the train to Jerusalem is very slow and is more of
a tourist attraction than anything else.
It's much, much easier to call a sherut taxi called Nesher which will
pick you up from home/hotel and take you to the airport for NIS 58. No
security process involved....
Harel
2011/8/17 KIZU Naoko <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
> @ TLV T3 Departure floor
>
> In addition to the previous mails, I'd recommend who plans railway
> trip to arrive your departure station enough earlier than your train,
> specially if you are in Jerusalem or perhaps a place easy-to-reach
> from the West Bank.
>
> Security check at Malha Jerusalem Station would be as serious as at
> the airport. Though they keep being polite but the check on me took
> over 10 minutes. I was asked by two officers respectively to show them
> my passport, open every bag, what I bought in the Old City, and then
> again explain what almost each item in the bags was, and which places
> I had visited during my ongoing trip, specially in the West Bank,
> which Arab countries I had visited both in this particular trip and in
> the past and finally if I carried weapons. Finally they had me go
> through with smiles and best wishes on trip, so generally there was no
> problem at all, but if my schedule had been tight, it might have
> caused problems.
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
> <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Federico Leva (Nemo), 17/08/2011 08:59:
> >>> PS: I didn't find them very good-looking either, like someone
> claimed.
> >>
> >> Uh? :-? By the way I agree, but looking at some of the lots of the
> >> trainees the situation might improve in the future. :-p
> >
> > Oh, and I forgot to say that one of them was also even drawing
> (smilies
> > etc.) together with a traveler on her to-be-embarked laptop box.
> Perhaps
> > she had enough books for her next layover.
> >
> > Nemo
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