This has already drawn a lot of opinions but it has yet to actually provide
any substantive reasonings for how releasing details with links to
individuals improve transparency.
The process, reasonings, and results could be released without identifiers
to enable a review of the process at time later in the year to help people
play with the modeling but putting private details in the public realm
doesnt make the process more transparent nor improve it. The greater
personal detail the WMF publishes the less likely individuals are going to
be able to participate, especially those in already minority and displaced
segments of society.
every contribution matters, ever contribution is valuable, and every
contribution is different
On 19 April 2017 at 13:15, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com>
wrote:
Dear Subhashish,
According to you, making noise about your contributions is more important
than actually doing the things. I have been saying this for quite some time
– it is always the talkers who get noticed and get credited while doers
keep doing silently. So one has to be more active in social media, writing
blogs, getting mentioned in English media, etc. Thanks for enlightening.
Regards,
Pavanaja
*From:* Wikimania-l [mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On
Behalf Of *Subhashish Panigrahi
*Sent:* 19 April 2017 10:26 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarships to attend Wikimania
I too can't agree with Risker more on the privacy aspects. Also, it's
important to respect those handful of community members that were part of
the scholarship committee would have spent hours evaluating a few thousand
applications, and the WMF staff who were part of it. If I can summarize
what a former committee member shared on Facebook some time ago - a lot of
deserving Wikimedians do not get a scholarship. But it's almost impossible
for the committee to make everything right. Also many deserving applicants
miss out communicating their contribution clearly which doesn't leave the
committee to evaluate their applications with a full knowledge of those
applicants' contribution. Being a great contributor is one thing, and being
able to communicate one's contribution with context to someone less
familiar with a contributor's home community is another thing. When this
situation can be made better by creating learning patterns and other
learning documents so that many contributors, especially those whose native
language is not English can be benefited, it is NOT OK to share
awarded/rejected application details. Wikimedians and many others that are
trying to do the right thing by sharing knowledge are already in risk
because of their public writing. It will be insane to put them in more
risk. A former colleague and a fellow Wikimedian and I received legal
threats once from someone who was failing to retain a Wikipedia article,
and it made me scared even though I was working in an organization full of
lawyers.
Let's assume some good faith here, and better the resources that would be
useful for many applicants for the coming years.
Subhashish
On 19-Apr-2017, at 9:42 AM, Adrian Raddatz <ajraddatz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Agree with what Risker said above, that it's hard to get community members
to volunteer for these committees. That's the easiest way to get involved
if you don't think the process is going well.
Adrian Raddatz
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Pavajana, it's the user names that are confidential in this case. Nothing
stops unsuccessful candidates from publishing their own names, if they
wish. How many do you think will do that?
Risker/Anne
On 18 April 2017 at 23:56, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com>
wrote:
Wikimedia contributions are public numbers. If username is known, all
contributions can be found out. What is secrecy in that? Only thing not
disclosed is how the evaluations are done. This should be made public,
since the entire movement is run by public funding.
Regards,
Pavanaja
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Behalf Of *Gnangarra
*Sent:* 19 April 2017 09:12 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarships to attend Wikimania
Contributions is such wide term are you talking about edits in projects or
work on the ground in assisting others, what about the unseen work like
supporting an affiliate to be successful or a GLAM to open up its resources
When talking about edits is a photo uploaded to commons worth more because
its used in multiple projects than some one who starts an article in one
language, does an english wp edit have a greater weigh over a french wp
edit because it has more potential viewers or does a noongar wp edit in the
incubator which is opening access to a whole new culture and language to
the movement have greater value.
Issue around the fair balance across communities of access to Wikimania
is also a question does a country with well financed chapter have less to
contribute compared to a country closer but limited finanaces, does a
counrty where it'll cost 5-10,000 US$ for each attendee deserve greater
numbers supported because its not possible for people to attend over a
country that the cost is less than US$1000, would 10 people attending be
better than 1 person attending.
Does a country with 20 million people deserve to 1/10th the amount of
attendees of a country with 200million people. Every one contributes in the
way they feel most comfortable and safe. For some time is unlimited for
others time contributing is a constant risk there is no way we as community
can openly value these, the committee does the best it can with the
knowledge presented to them by the candidates.... Whether we agree with
the decisions of the committee or not the individuals should not be subject
to the vitriol that the community can and does hand out regularly nor
should they be put at excessive risk for what they have done.
A list of everyone who accepts a scholarship enables transparency in
ensuring reporting from those people, but even that can carry a risk for
them. Putting contributions how ever its defined increases the risk of harm
both from within the community and from outside, doing harm to satisfy
curiosity isnt acceptable
On 19 April 2017 at 10:51, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja(a)vishvakannada.com>
wrote:
Hello,
I would like WMF to make the list of applicants, their contributions, the
weightage used for each kind of contribution and the final list of
scholarship awardees in a table form. Since WMF is run by the contributions
of the volunteers, such a transparency is definitely needed from WMF. I
hope WMF will oblige.
Regards,
Pavanaja
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Behalf Of *Ellie Young
*Sent:* 19 April 2017 01:23 AM
*To:* Wikimania general list (open subscription)
*Subject:* [Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarships to attend Wikimania
Everyone who applied for a scholarship to Wikimania '17 has been notified
about the status. If you have not heard, please check your spam filter,
or send email to ask about the status to: wikimaniascholarships@
wikimedia.org
April 18 is the deadline for people who were offered a scholarship to
respond.
A final list of everyone who was awarded and able to accept will be posted
to on the wiki in early May.
We expect registration for Wikimania '17 to go live on or before May 1st.
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Wikimedia Foundation
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