Hi Nuno,
Your tool looks really interesting !
How do the images got into the tool ? Do you provide a full list on October
1st ? Or are the new pictures assigned to jury members on the fly as soon
as they are posted to Commons ?
Best regards,
Sylvain.
2012/6/24 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares(a)wikimedia.pt>
Greetings all,
We had such a tool running on our website. Briefly:
* We create tokens for each juri;
* We randomly assign images for each token (each will get TOTAL/TOKENS
images approx.), putting them on a "bucket level 1";
* Then, the token is sent to the juri person, which will use it to browse
through the gallery of his assigned photos, and the selection process
begins.
* The selection process consists in 2 passes:
-- The juri person either "promotes" interesting images to "bucket 2"
or
"demotes" uninteresting images to "bucket 0" (to mark them as
viewed).
-- Most probably, in the end the juri person has selected too much images
for bucket 2, so the last step is to demote images from bucket 2 to 1 again.
In the end, the bucket 2 should have the number we established (50) for
him to have present on the juri presencial meeting.
The tool was further extended for helping during the juri presencial
meeting: people gather somewhere, and the tool merges the 50 selected
photos from each, and then a voting mechanism is due: each juri present
will assign a classification.
At the end, the selection list is downloaded (for mobility) and ordered to
clear out exequo's (each juri will change his vote according to the
discussion).
You can have a "status" from last year, here:
http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.**pt/tools/juri/status.php<http://wlm2011.u…
And I believe you can try things (this is a "running copy" of the old
site):
http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.**pt/tools/juri/?token=a5e88407-**
be35-11e1-a7d1-eae4baf4981c<http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.pt/tools/juri/?token=a5e88407-be35-11e1-a7d1-eae4baf4981c>
As for the presencial meeting' extensions, I'll have to dig where did I
put them .
-NT
Em 22-06-2012 07:11, Nicu Buculei escreveu:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Bas vb wrote:
No voter will watch all images (or maybe not even
a big part), so I
think a
public voting system will only work with lists up to a maximum of 500
pictures. Watching 10.000 pictures (and some will have 50k) just takes
quite
some time (1-2 days).
Last year I scrolled to the categories (looking 200 pictures in 10
seconds),
every picture that I liked or jumped out was then opened in a new tab by
me,
and if I liked the picture I copied the link and added it to a page with
wikistyle pictures on big size (700px) this page I watched in preview
edit
mode and this way narrowed down the selection.
Something like that is what we used for the jury pre-screening, we had
the jury members to look at the category pages as thumbnails and make
a selection from there. The links to individual image pages were
collected and we produced the final voting selection with a reasonable
amount of images. More people doing this, and the selection will be
balanced.
I think a basic but strong to tool to speed this up very much is to skip
the
copy the link and place it somewhere else part of that and make that a
simple mouseclick.
I had the people making the selection copy the image URL from the
address bar copy and paste it into a text file, send it when ready. A
web app can be a helpful replacement for that, but keep in mind one
aspect: jury members may NOT be regular Wikipedia contributors and NOT
have an account, so it have to 1. work without login and 2. keep their
work together somehow.
so you start with a huge category, you go throught that page by page (200
pictures a time), and select those that you like
(the add pictures to
list
mode). These will then show in a list (where you can pick the pixel
size),
there you have a delete mode to delete pictures not good enough. The only
thing is, no saving on Commons should be involved because
participants/everybody shouldn't see what the juries select (at least
not to
soon).
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