On 11/14/05, Anthere <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Anthere You have my deepest sympathies re losing your baby. My wife and I lost our first child - she would have been 12 next week, and I have been thinking often about here this past week since we were able to go back to where she is buried for a visit (we live in a different state now about 1800 miles away), and then I came across your note. Although we now have 4 living children, I sometimes feel the loss acutely, but I have hope for the future as I am sure you do also. I am sure you have a great support group that helped you through it all; feel free to drop me a line if you ever need to talk. I offer because sometimes people just don't understand that months/years later you may just need to rehash stuff again. I also wanted to thank you for your dedicated service and leadership on the wikipedia - especially considering the totality of the circumstances you describe above. Jim -- Jim (trodel(a)gmail.com) "Our love may not always be reciprocated, or even appreciated, but love is never wasted" - Neal A Maxwell