I'm happy with the idea of provisional adminship, as I think that
could be a solution to several problems. I would also welcome some
sort of jury system for decisions likely to be contentious (though I
don't see hou you would identify those more effectively than the
current arrangements of posting things on AN/I). My comments were in
response to the idea of replacing admins with juries to delete attack
pages and block vandals.
WereSpielChequers
On 24 August 2010 15:41, Carcharoth <carcharothwp(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
All those concerns are addressed by the idea I
proposed where people
can do temporary admin actions (obviously this ability would be
swiftly taken away if abused) that are later confirmed or reversed by
a "full" admin. I think the overhead would be worth it, along with
some real metrics to judge people by when they run at RFA for the full
flag. The problem is finding a developer to: (a) say whether it is
feasible; and (b) to actually write the changes needed, including the
code for making these "temporary" admin actions appear in a separate
log (with the logs capable of being suppressed if needed as with any
logs) and only appearing in the permanent logs if approved. If
reversed, the actions would probably look like "suppressed" actions.
Obviously, the details would need working on, but now that suppression
and revdel is at a more mature stage, it shouldn't be too hard to
adapt the code to this sort of purpose (though obviously with a
different name and so on).
Carcharoth
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM, WereSpielChequers
<werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I appreciate that your suggestion is not to have admins. But aside
> from the issue that juries will be slower and less efficient than the
> current system for dealing with attack pages, what is the error rate
> for admin deletion of attack pages and blocking of vandalism only
> accounts? There are areas where admin decisions are sometimes
> challenged or contentious, but in my experience the deletion of attack
> pages and the blocking of vandalism only accounts rarely if ever
> involves admin errors. So this proposal would replace a system that
> works well with one that at best would achieve comparable results but
> more slowly and less efficiently.
>
> As for blanking attack pages, yes patrollers can and do do this. But
> that doesn't stop people cyber bullying by emailing a diff of the
> attack page, nor does it help when as so often happens the name of the
> attack page is itself an attack.
>
> WereSpielChequers
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