On 12/13/05, Tony Sidaway <f.crdfa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/13/05, The Cunctator <cunctator(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On 12/11/05, Anthony DiPierro
<wikilegal(a)inbox.org> wrote:
One thing we should probably introduce in this
area though is that
articles which do not provide any references should be speedy
deletions. Now there are probably a whole lot of good articles out
there right now which would fit that, so for now let's make the CSD
criterion only for articles caught in the first 48 hours.
Now this, while a rather draconian policy, is at least not inimical to
the nature of Wikipedia, as AfD is. Of course, I'd rather that people
be expected to make a good-faith effort to find a reference before
deleting.
I think this is something that we need collaboration for. A page upon
which articles that don't contain any references at all can be placed.
If references are added they can be removed from the page. If they
stay there for a month or so, they may be deleted. No limits on
article age would be needed.
My only hesitation here is that I don't think there are very many
valid articles in Wikipedia for which finding a reference is not very
easy. For those few articles in that category, I don't see the harm
in *requiring* that they be referenced *before* they are added (by the
author, or they could even be put on the new "Articles for Creation").
If articles are given a month to get references, I believe that is
only going to make the page grow bigger and more unmanageable. This
is especially true because the number of new articles in a day is only
going to go up, not down. If we can't reference them faster than we
add them, the process will fail regardless of whether there is a month
or a day to complete it. In fact, it will probably only fail harder
because there will be more people wasting time trying to reference
those articles which can't be referenced.
At least a month is better than forever, but I think a month is too
long to be manageable.
How about this: we list pages there for a month, but after 24 hours
the article gets moved to the user's subpage. And let's add this: an
article doesn't get moved, even after 24 hours, unless a member of
the "article referencing team" (or whatever) says that s/he has spent
a few minutes looking for a source and failed. If no one bothers to
make a good faith search effort, the article stays in article space
for up to a month.
Anthony