From: Skyring <skyring(a)gmail.com>
I'm talking about the same user, using a
different login, or no login.
Yes, I've pointed this out. Why did you move away from addressing
NYJ's valid point?
I've addressed all valid points.
It doesn't STOP people from editing. The car has no
engine, remember?
It's not going anywhere.
It only has "no engine" because the automatic block exists in the first
place That's what STOPs them.
The block is
reset because attempts to avoid blocks (e.g. by creating
new
userids and attempting to edit with them, or
attempting to edit without
logging in) are violations of the block, and the general rule is that
attempts to violate blocks reset the timer.
Yes, but as you've pointed out, it doesn't work, and as NJY noted, it
affects the original, logged in user.
I haven't pointed out any such thing. It works just fine at stopping what
it is intended to stop.
NJY, despite what other
failings he might have, raised a valid point, and you've just spent
three hours waffling about other things.
His *claim* is that he got innocently caught; I've pointed out that for
every *claim* of innocence, there are hundreds who are validly blocked, that
there was no need for him to do what he did to get caught in the first
place, and that if he was indeed innocently caught the "punishment" is minor
and the fix easy. That pretty much covers every possible angle, so it's
hard to see why you keep insisting that I haven't dealt with the point.
It
is not completely effective, and may have other side effects.
Thanks. It's a bug, wouldn't you say?
No, I'd say it's a good tool that generally works well. The fact that it
can't stop all sockpuppets etc. is not a bug, but merely a limitation. As
for the fact that it *may* once have caused some minor discomfort to a
blocked user who *claims* he was trying to do something legitimate, see
previous e-mails or above.
Jay.