The call him anything you like!
--- sannse <sannse(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
It's rather pedantic and irrelevant to the
discussion, but Shipman isn't
denying anything any more - he's dead.
--sannse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Richards" <marich712000(a)yahoo.com>
To: <wpmail(a)pcbartlett.com>om>; "English Wikipedia"
<wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Viajero/Zero and Lance6
- POV terms
Well, there comes a point where a fact is no
longer
disputed by any significant number of people. I
don't
know whether Harold Shipman still denies murder,
but,
if he admits it, then surely calling him a
murderer is
justified and NPOV. If he disputes it, then
calling
him a 'convicted murderer, a charge that he
still
denies' seems fair.
Mark
--- Pete/Pcb21 <pete_pcb21_wpmail(a)pcbartlett.com>
wrote:
> Geoffrey Burling wrote:
>
> [Examples]
> > *President Bush, alleged cocaine abuser
> > *The CIA allegedly sold drugs in Los Angeles
to
> fund the Contras in Nicaraugua
> > *Kenneth Lay, indicted for corporate fraud
> > *Martha Stewart, convicted of insider trading
>
> > I think is a solution that would nicely fit
with
> the rules of NPOV.
>
> I thought that too. Interestingly though UK
> broadcasting rules are more
> relaxed about this.
>
> For instance, programmes do not have to say
"Harold
> Shipman, convicted
> of mass murder,...". They can, and do, say "Mass
> murderer Harold
> Shipman...". Once someone has been convicted of
X,
that
person doesn't
appear to have recourse if someone calls them an
Xer.
Is this a case where WP NPOV exacts a higher
standard than supposedly
neutral TV news programmes?
Pete
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