On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:57:28 +0530, "Relata Refero"
<refero.relata(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Just to repeat: the original edits by that IP were not
trolling, but
relevant contributions to the discussion at WT:SOCK, but put with a
directness - not drama - that most of us would have avoided.
You think. I think it was repeating a baseless allegation made by a
banned user with a grudge. But then, I have been harassed by these
people for so long that I am inclined to think that anything which
has its origins in one of their memes is done with deliberate
intent.
I seem to recall that the IP turned out to be using Tor as well, but
that might just be the other IPs who stoked the drama.
Of the subsequent edits before he was blocked, I
didn't see any 'pushing' of
the COIanalyst theory. The most he said was "As a consultant with what looks
to be money riding on your participation in this endeavor" to Jehochman,
which, as has been pointed out on AN/I, is an unfortunate interpretation
that could be made by someone glancing through Jehochman's userpage, if
someone hadn't read the subpage in which he addresses those issues.
Quite. So it was an allegation picked up "somewhere" and not
investigated with any diligence whatsoever. I have a word for
that...
It's precisely the lack of nuance that causes this
to be interpreted in the
manner in which Guy has which has concerned so many people. This is not
sympathizing with disruptive users, this is not seeking to disrupt the
project, this is simply a concern that some people are getting so heated
that they are losing some of their judgment.
So, yes. Under these circumstances I would have hoped for more than "five or
ten seconds". I would have hoped for a quiet, drama- and hyperbole-free
discussion of whether the IP's edits were block-worthy, and then we could
have moved on. That this did not happen was not because of the IP.
Which we had, except for the Tor nodes and sockpuppets which heated
the debate, and the admin who repeated the allegation about Durova
also without bothering to check the facts *at all*.
Just a quick question for you here: for how long does an
unsubstantiated allegation made by our detractors and brought to us
through Tor nodes have to be discussed?
Guy (JzG)
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